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Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:53 pm to Ripley
Did I miss Emery announcing?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:07 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
I don't care what you guys say about Bama frat boys playing defense, Spivey's video looks better than Cain's
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:09 pm to BayouCowboy
Not pointing out any particular poster, but you guys need to temper your expectations on Curry a bit.
You would literally think M. Lynch is about to suit up in the fall with all the hype he is getting on here.
You would literally think M. Lynch is about to suit up in the fall with all the hype he is getting on here.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:12 pm to SoloTiger
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temper your expectations on Curry a bit.
I just like the kid. Seems like a really hard worker and has the eye of the tiger tattooed on his forearm.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:13 pm to SoloTiger
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Not pointing out any particular poster, but you guys need to temper your expectations on Curry a bit.
You would literally think M. Lynch is about to suit up in the fall with all the hype he is getting on here.
I like Curry, but I don't think he's the next Lynch. Like I said, the video shows some really bad defenses.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 pm to VolTiger13
Emery may change his mind by December, but it seems like we have a much better shot at Spivey and Cain so that’s where we need to focus. We don’t need to be left at the alter on signing day.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 pm to LSU FSU Grad
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Emery looks great in his film. But, the competition level is a little lower
Maybe I’m misreading this, but playing 5A football in the River Parishes is SOLID competition.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:32 pm to bugafor6
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You are also forgetting Williams redshirted due to size his freshman year, you don’t think his frame played a part in him not being ranked higher?
Don't know and don't care what played a part in his not being ranked higher. But, this helps make my point. You can't rely solely on recruiting rankings. You can go by how much they help their team in college and if they play in the NFL.
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Speaking of the NFL draft, go look at how many top 100 recruits are projected to be in the first round. I sure see a lot of former 5 stars in the mocks
Good. I'm not saying they are NEVER right but I would bet a lot of money they are wrong more than they are correct.
"So Drew Brees & Marques Colston didn’t Rank NO stars. So These two Men carried a Franchise to the Super Bowl BUT...Completely missed in the Recruiting Game! "
So Drew Brees & Marques Colston didn’t Rank NO stars
I think this guy was the leading rusher in the NFL last year:
LE’VEON BELL was a two star Recruit...don’t let the system dictate who you are...#Grind
LE’VEON BELL was a ???? Recruit...don’t let the system dictate who you are.
The information below is from JUST the 2017 NFL pro bowl.
Tom Brady wasn't a ranked prospect coming out of high school.
did a little research surrounding this year's Pro Bowl roster. He found 37 of the 88 players headed to the NFL Pro Bowl were 3-star or lower recruits. Interesting stuff.
37 NFL Pro Bowl Players Were 3-Star Recruits (or Worse)
Unranked: The last # is the number of pro bowls they have been to:
Tom Brady QB Michigan Patriots 12
Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (OH) Steelers 5
Antonio Brown WR Central Michigan Steelers 5
Kyle Juszczyk FB Harvard Ravens 1
Mike Tolbert FB Coastal Carolina Panthers 3
Delanie Walker TE Central Missouri Titans 2
Donald Penn OL Utah State Raiders 2
Chris Harris CB Kansas Broncos 3
Lorenzo Alexander LB California Bills 2
Thomas Davis LB Georgia Panthers 2
Michael Bennett DE Texas A&M Seahawks 2
David Johnson RB Northern Iowa Cardinals 1
Matthew Slater RS UCLA Patriots 1
2-stars:[/b] The last # is the number of pro bowls they have been to:
T.Y. Hilton WR Florida International Colts 3
Aquib Talib CB Kansas Broncos 4
Khalil Mack LB Buffalo Raiders 2
Bobby Wagner LB Utah State Seahawks 3
T.J. Lang OL Eastern Michigan Packers 1
Pat McAfee P West Virginia Colts 2
3-stars: The last # is the number of pro bowls they have been to:
Aaron Rodgers QB California Packers 6
Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State Cowboys 1
Matt Ryan QB Boston College Falcons 4
Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan State Steelers 2
Mike Evans WR Texas A&M Buccaneers 1
Brandon Scherff OL Iowa Redskins 1
David DeCastro OL Stanford Steelers 2
Travis Frederick OL Wisconsin Cowboys 3
Trent Williams OL Oklahoma Redskins 5
Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati Chiefs 2
Casey Hayward DB Vanderbilt Chargers 1
Devin McCourty DB Rutgers Patriots 2
Marcus Peters DB Washington Chiefs 2
Richard Sherman DB Stanford Seahawks 4
Brian Orakpo LB Texas Titans 4
Luke Kuechly LB Boston College Panthers 4
Ryan Kerrigan LB Purdue Redskins 2
Vic Beasley LB Clemson Falcons 1
Von Miller LB Texas A&M Broncos 5
Marshal Yanda OL Iowa Ravens 6
Kelechi Osemele OL Iowa State Raiders 1
Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh Rams 3
Geno Atkins DT Georgia Bengals 5
Cliff Avril DE Purdue Seahawks 1
Jurrell Casey DE USC Titans 2
Justin Tucker PK Texas Ravens 2
The Heisman trophy winner this past season was a walk-on.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:39 pm to SoloTiger
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Cain isn’t committing until December.
Just like Donte Starks didn't commit until July 8th. Stating what a high school player like it is fact is pretty hysterical.
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also said Tua’s brother was coming to LSU and that ish ain’t happening.
I have no idea but again it doesn't come off as being very bright to quote "FACT" about what a high school player will or will not do. EVEN if you personally know them.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:22 pm to Tiger Ree
Being able to run wildly east and west, and out athlete to beat defenders in high school doesn’t always translate to the college game well. So watching a highlight real of lower level competition proves nothing at this point.
Cain’s film, however, displays a running style that is college ready. He sets up defenders into blocks beautifully,, has amazing power and balance, and best of all has elite vision.
For anyone to knock Cain as anything less than elite is foolish. He shared the backfield with the top rated back for 19 and a top four back that enrolled at OU in 18. His touches should increase his senior year. Look at his sophomore film when he was the feature back. Kids a beast
Cain’s film, however, displays a running style that is college ready. He sets up defenders into blocks beautifully,, has amazing power and balance, and best of all has elite vision.
For anyone to knock Cain as anything less than elite is foolish. He shared the backfield with the top rated back for 19 and a top four back that enrolled at OU in 18. His touches should increase his senior year. Look at his sophomore film when he was the feature back. Kids a beast
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:31 pm to Ripley
Dude stop posting. Spivey is not better than Cain. It's definitely debatable that Cain isn't better than Emery though. He's not some sloppy second RB for LSU though. He's elite Emery just might be more elite.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:34 pm to Tiger Ree
You know how many kids play high school football? They cant scout each and every high school in the nation.
Sure seems like the recruiting rankings do a pretty good job
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35 of the 80 players named to the Pro Bowl (43.8 percent) were rated as either 5-star or 4-star players coming out of high school per the 247Sports Composite
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2017 NFL draft picks sorted by their @247Sports Composite recruiting ranking: 5*: 23 4*: 76 3*: 90 2*: 26 Unranked: 38
Sure seems like the recruiting rankings do a pretty good job
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:48 pm to Lsualum2017
Great news. Cain will be amazing here, he’ll be a better back than Emery.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:02 am to Ripley
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One is slow as molasses
Ripley, You talking about Cain? Come on man....
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 1:06 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 3:09 am to BayouCowboy
You really can't go off those Hudl numbers unless the have a green check next to them, Cain is not a 4.4 guy. Also his sophomore film at Guyer is better than his junior film at IMG.
He might not be that explosive back but he does everything else well. Has great feet and balance, good vision, good leg drive as he always finishes his runs, good in pass protection, and also shows the ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.
He might not be that explosive back but he does everything else well. Has great feet and balance, good vision, good leg drive as he always finishes his runs, good in pass protection, and also shows the ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:28 am to Lsualum2017
I think we get both.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:26 am to Ripley
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In short: One is slow as molasses and has gotten worse since his freshmen year. And the other is significantly faster and hasn't even touch his potential yet - and he's better than Cain right now.
I wouldn't say all that, but if we strike out on Emery and Cain, I'd take Spivey in a heartbeat. After watching Cain's junior tape he looks like a complete back, and by that I mean pass blocking, and receiving. I love that they show him pass blocking as a highlight (something you almost never see in a RB's highlight film). That will get him snaps before any other freshman back.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 6:32 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 6:49 am to Tiger Ree
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Using which TE gets more snaps on an LSU team to determine if the recruiting rating system usually works is laughable.
How about an article from one of the paid recruiting sites about LSU's lowest rated recruits the past 10 years? I can't believe there are people on this recruiting board that don't know to take recruiting rankings with a grain of salt.
I'm trying to device if your exactly what you're trying to prove? That sometimes guy gets through the system and is ranked improperly? So this list of guys is supposed somehow disprove my statement that recruiting system usually works?
It seems to me it does just the opposite. Here is a stat for you.
Here is an article from SBNation about rankings
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Five-stars make up less than one percent of Division I recruits, yet five percent of the AFC and NFC Championship starters.
That doesn’t seem random. Five-stars make up 0.6 percent of all Division I scholarship recruits, but five percent of the starters. That an over-representation by eight times.
Four-stars make up just nine percent of Division I recruits, yet 18 percent of the AFC and NFC Championship starters.
That doesn’t seem random, either. I made a meme for this.
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I try to take EVERYTHING regarding college and pro sports with a grain of salt. But the recruiting system generally works, it's up to recruiters and coaches to identify those diamonds in the rough that the recruiting services miss, often due to lack of playing time of available video on a kid but sometimes due to the fact that kids mature physically at different rates.
But I will say that based on your list it sure looks like Miles and company could identify unrecognized raw talent despite missing the cues on Dak Prescott (like everyone else did except Mullen).
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:11 am to mdomingue
Don’t try to bring facts to this dude. He’s convinced every 3* is better than every 5*, until one commits to us. Then the recruiting service is right and CEO is the greatest recruiter ever
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