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re: How is President Trump making these NK peace talks look so easy?

Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
Trump has been the best president in my life and he’s not close to finishing his first term.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14509 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:13 pm to
Yeah, he got the melter turned up a few degrees today
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54229 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:15 pm to
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Not one comment addressing the OP.



You mean the guy who can't type one coherent statement when we're discussing policies on here but yet he bitches about other people's coherent statements? That guy?
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:15 pm to
lol these posts are amazing.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:16 pm to
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What is the difference between Trump today and prior administrations?


North Korea demonstrated ICBMs and a thermonuclear bomb under @real’s watch, a dramatically new position of strength from which to negotiate. It was so significant, an American president immediately jumped at their offer to talk in person, elevating them like never before.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Cruiserhog


Meltdown
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:19 pm to
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How is President Trump making these NK peace talks look so easy?
Maybe because it's more entertainment than actual substance. Trump is good at that and apparently Kim isn't too bad himself.
quote:

What is the difference between Trump today and prior administrations?
The others likes the attention from proclaiming their not negotiating, while Trump likes the attention from proclaiming that he is. Doesn't hurt to try, but I just don't think with Kim anything will actually change, even if he p promises he will.

And why would it? He finally gained leverage internationally with the nuclear weapons and missiles. So why give that leverage up? Furthermore, the leverage he has domestically is that he has controlled the information from most of the citizens and has harshly punished those who try to counter that. Allowing for his citizens to see more of the outside world would be the ultimate red pill, and it would make the person who kept forcing the blue pill down their throats look very good.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101658 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Maybe because it's more entertainment than actual substance. Trump is good at that and apparently Kim isn't too bad himself.


The "show" is essential to the "substance" in this matters. It's always been so.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:24 pm to
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North Korea demonstrated ICBMs and a thermonuclear bomb under @real’s watch, a dramatically new position of strength from which to negotiate. It was so significant, an American president immediately jumped at their offer to talk in person, elevating them like never before.



Does that mean that now isn't a time to talk, Justin? How many more administrations should we go through without dealing with NK? You must have the answer.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:25 pm to
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What is the difference between Trump today and prior administrations?

Who were the controlling interest in prior administrations that blocked them from coming no where close to where President Trump has our current relationship with NK?

Is/was China key? Do finally have a POTUS that called China’s bluff (I know we do)?

Past Presidents have all been owned by someone. Their donors, corporations, the Establishment/Collectivists, Globalists... they all had power over past Presidents who were desperately seeking wealth, power, and legacy that can only be granted by these ruling class entities.

Trump is free of this. And, he has decades of experience as a 1%'er ruling over hundreds of thousands of subordinates, and cutting deals with other ruling class entities. He even has a best selling book on how to do it.

The guy doesn't need to submit, pander, beg, and compromise to a disadvantage to reach his goals.

He wants to go down as the greatest deal maker and job boss of all time, with a legacy of the greatest expanse of glorious accomplishments of all time.

And that's just overwhelmingly different from what every other President who's ever had this job had for their goals.

As a result, he just has all the leverage with significantly less to lose.
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:27 pm to
Please continue being the absolute queen of all morons! We can always count on you, you take the word to heights unimagined!
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:29 pm to
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It's easier to justify big government when the constituency is afraid of a problem that would require a big government to protect them. So rather than make the relitvely easy deals or actions to make the problem become resolved, they drag it out or make the problem a bigger threat than it really is.


This right here. Establishment politics 101: Every problem you solve is one less club to bash your political opponent with, and one fewer thing the citizenry need the government to accomplish.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Cruiserhog


Oh look folks, it’s awake! Now step away from your computer and check the bottom of the basement stairs.......your mommy probably threw you down some more chee-tohs and grape soda.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82166 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:31 pm to
Trumps so awesome that I don’t worry about him. I actually find myself wondering what it would like to be Kim and to meet this dominant world figure like TRUMP.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119014 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:35 pm to
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So why give that leverage up?


Think!

Blockade.
Sanctions.
Poverty.
Fire and Fury.
Loss of power.
Death and destruction.

vs.

Peace.
Prosperity.
Unicorns and rainbows.



(Just kidding on the last part.)


Seriously, there is a huge juxtaposition between a future NK of poverty and despair and a NK that will play nicely in the global sandbox.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119014 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Past Presidents have all been owned by someone. Their donors, corporations, the Establishment/Collectivists, Globalists.


I would like to know names.

Paul Singer?
Ed Cox?
Rupert Murdoch?
Every corporate CEO who has a manufacturing plant in China?
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Strings cut

Clowns out...
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:44 pm to
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Paul Singer?
Ed Cox?
Rupert Murdoch?
Every corporate CEO who has a manufacturing plant in China?


Yep, and who owns them...

Look at a "riches people in the world" list, then find the people that aren't on the list that should be at the top, or are sorely misrepresented.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 12:50 pm to
How?


He's a sociopath.

Half of Europeans thinks he's insane.

If it were not for 17 indictments you could pretend all is well. His gaming pardons is so his co conspirators can wait it out.

Maybe he wins.

Maybe he's impeached.





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