Trump is a crook. Obama?

IRS targeting conservatives and Fast & Furious, as a start.

win your own internet battles

Trumps net worth is decreasing while all his predecessors have increased their net worth exponentially.

Don’t see how you could argue Trump is a crook

It looks like two people who have no idea what they are talking about are trying to "best" one another with knowledge they don't have. You and your friend should do your own research before discussing definitive positions based upon no knowledge whatsoever. That way you can, in the future, make an informed decision one way or the other.

Drone strikes against US Citizens without benefit of trial or conviction. (Sure, they were in all likelihood very bad hombres. But, without benefit of trial and with what we know of Obama now, can we be sure? Does not excuse the deaths of the target's kids in the strikes too.)

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win your own internet battles

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Haha, under normal circumstances, you would be spot on. This isn't online, however. In short, perhaps it better to describe this as my becoming more informed about Obama's questionable activity.

Perhaps gathering knowledge is enlightening. You assuming that I'm trying to "best" him only speaks to your own ignorance of the circumstances.

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I was informed by a liberal friend that Trump is a crook. He is a dumbass

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Why do you have dumbass friends?

$400 billion unmarked currency to Iran not approved by congress. They said we already knew though and it had been signed off on.


Spy gate.

Encouraging illegals to vote.

And this nugget for not reporting millions in campaign fund contributions

us news report

Here's a few:

In both the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections, the Obama campaign purposely disabled the credit card verification system for its Web site donations, allowing anyone from any foreign country to donate with no limit and no proof of identity; in both elections it was demonstrated that people overseas and people with obviously false identities were able to donate to Obama campaign, in direct violation of several laws. To this day it is not known what percentage of Obama’s campaign funds are illegally obtained, since there is no documentation.

Billions of taxpayer dollars gambled on “green” companies like Solyndra, NextEra, Ener1, Solar Trust and many others — all of which went bankrupt.

Militarily intervened in Libya in 2011 without the Congressional approval required by the War Powers Act — technically an impeachable offense.

Handed out over 1,200 waivers to politically connected donors exempting them from the onerous requirements of Obamacare.

Doling out $800 billion in stimulus cash for “shovel-ready” jobs that didn’t exist — the money just evaporated with no measurable economic benefit.

Stopped American oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, allowing other nations with worse environmental records to drill instead — thereby managing to both weaken our economy and damage the environment simultaneously.

Cash for Clunkers, which doled out taxpayer money to anyone who wanted to replace their old cars, but which mostly only ended up subsidizing the puchase of foreign-made cars by people who could have afforded them on their own anyway; meanwhile, the traded-in cars were all destroyed, creating a shortage and thereby increasing the cost of used cars, hurting the pocketbooks of poor people.

Violated the U.S. Constitution by authorizing assassinations and drone strikes to kill American citizens abroad — without due process.

Instructed Attorney General Eric Holder to stonewall any investigation into the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panthers.

Aided and abetted the “Arab Spring” which deposed existing secular governments across North Africa, leading to a regional power vacuum which was filled by Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other hardline Islamists.