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re: What is a good cfb coaches process?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:08 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:08 pm to boxcar willie
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Since we have not had a championship winning team since 2007 is it time to give up on a process culture of a positive winning attitude? Would it be a better process culture for the players to have the attitude that we probably won't win shite this year since we have only won the SEC west one time since 2007?
What in tarnation is this shite?
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:15 pm to boxcar willie
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Sabans process
Forget Saban. How about a coach who can beat Troy and not get embarrassed by mediocre Mississippi State.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:18 pm to boxcar willie
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what are the major parts of a good process and what could coach O do to emulate coach Sabans process?
Saban is a once in a generation coach. Most of us will never see someone replicate what he has done
Guys like Bowden, Paterno, Spurrier, etc are looked at as legends and they only have 1 or 2 titles.
Saban has 6
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:19 pm to boxcar willie
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do you think having a winning attitude through positive thinking is a failure of culture process? Is it putting the cart before the horse? Since we have not had a championship winning team since 2007 is it time to give up on a process culture of a positive winning attitude? Would it be a better process culture for the players to have the attitude that we probably won't win shite this year since we have only won the SEC west one time since 2007? Which is the better attitude process culture for the players to have, reality (which in this case would be negativity) or positivity?
Not necessarily. You can maintain an expectation of winning a national title even if you start losing to Troy. The motivation has to change year-to-year, though. The moment you lower expectations and don't push your players as hard as you can is when you slack up and get beat. This goes for any organization whether it be a college team or a fortune 500 company.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:24 pm to rmnldr
quote:Agreed. That's one thing Saban did when he came to LSU, installed a winning culture through attitude and expectations.
Not necessarily. You can maintain an expectation of winning a national title even if you start losing to Troy. The motivation has to change year-to-year, though. The moment you lower expectations and don't push your players as hard as you can is when you slack up and get beat. This goes for any organization whether it be a college team or a fortune 500 company.
Good enough wasn't good enough... if we're going to win
If you don't think we're going to win... leave
If you're going to stay... you are going to work at it
If you work at it... we'll win
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:27 pm to boxcar willie
Oh has hired
His old GA as DL coach
His old DL coach as DL coach
The USC RB and OL coaches from his interim stint at USC
Dave Aranda’s old DB coach to coach safeties.
His old interim OC as full time OC.
The ST coach from his time with the saints.
O isn’t exactly breaking the mold and reaching for hear hires.
His old GA as DL coach
His old DL coach as DL coach
The USC RB and OL coaches from his interim stint at USC
Dave Aranda’s old DB coach to coach safeties.
His old interim OC as full time OC.
The ST coach from his time with the saints.
O isn’t exactly breaking the mold and reaching for hear hires.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:38 pm to boxcar willie
quote:A good sturdy Board of Trustees would not hurt.
What is a good cfb coaches process?what are the major parts of a good process and what could coach O do to emulate coach Sabans process? A good process is the most important part of cfb coaching and many think Orgeron is process challenged if he even has one.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 5:58 pm to lsu2006
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What in tarnation is this shite?
all that comes from another thread that became partly about Orgeron believing in a process of trying to cultivate positive winning thinking in the players and coach O being called a liar for doing it.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:00 pm to SammyTiger
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What is a good cfb coaches process?Oh has hired His old GA as DL coach His old DL coach as DL coach The USC RB and OL coaches from his interim stint at USC Dave Aranda’s old DB coach to coach safeties. His old interim OC as full time OC. The ST coach from his time with the saints. O isn’t exactly breaking the mold and reaching for hear hires.
he didn't have much success in going outside his process of hiring coaches he knows well when he did it last season. Process of stick to what he knows.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:02 pm to I20goon
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greed. That's one thing Saban did when he came to LSU, installed a winning culture through attitude and expectations. Good enough wasn't good enough... if we're going to win If you don't think we're going to win... leave If you're going to stay... you are going to work at it If you work at it... we'll win
you say the great Saban did that?
Better not let word of that get our on this board.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:06 pm to boxcar willie
In regards to the other thread, IMO it's possible to instill positive thinking in the players without declaring that they're gonna make the CFP. I just think that's setting yourself up to look bad if you don't make it or don't even get close as was the case this past year.
Declaring that your team is going to be in the final four is a results oriented approach before the season instead of worrying about getting better everyday and beating the next team on the schedule.
Declaring that your team is going to be in the final four is a results oriented approach before the season instead of worrying about getting better everyday and beating the next team on the schedule.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:06 pm to boxcar willie
Recruiting is the lifeblood of CFB. Saban is damn good at it and Bama spends an enormous amount on resources. Both Bama and UGA spend the most money on recruiting and it's a huge factor on why both of them are on top of the world in cfb today. As a gameday coach Saban is actually mediocre, but whens the last time you felt that someone actually had better players than Alabama.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:17 pm to boxcar willie
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Since we have not had a championship winning team since 2007
Yeah, no
One of LSU's greatest teams ever was 2011.
Regardless of 1/9/12.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:18 pm to SammyTiger
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Oh has hired
His old GA as DL coach
His old DL coach as DL coach
The USC RB and OL coaches from his interim stint at USC
Dave Aranda’s old DB coach to coach safeties.
His old interim OC as full time OC.
The ST coach from his time with the saints.
O isn’t exactly breaking the mold and reaching for hear hires.
And what happened when he tried to break the mold?
He got Canada, who almost drove Dave Aranda away.
He hires familiar people so that they fit into what he wants and the culture he's trying to establish.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:20 pm to rmnldr
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He got Canada, who almost drove Dave Aranda away.
Whoa, I missed this one somehow. Can you give me a brief explanation please?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:25 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:drivel.
As a gameday coach Saban is actually mediocre,
Latest example: did you happen to catch the NC game? Halftime QB adjustment. Huge, ballsy decision. Championship.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:26 pm to Brazos
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Has anyone been able to make chicken salad out of chicken shite yet?
Ree, Space Clownboy and a few others are in the lab, even as we speak, working on a formula for it.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:32 pm to earl keese
I think Clownboy is still in time out. Maybe he's being consulted by proxy though. I haven't heard much about loons or moonbats lately however. I bet he blames Miles for his suspension though.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:36 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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As a gameday coach Saban is actually mediocr
Did you type this with a straight face?Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:52 pm to boxcar willie
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what are the major parts of a good process and what could coach O do to emulate coach Sabans process
I don’t think it is something O can emulate. Some people are just more driven and have a hyperacute attention to detail. Some don’t. It’s not something you can develop in your 50s. You have it or you don’t.
Clearly O doesn’t.
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