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re: LSU wants to sell alcohol in Tiger Stadium, but other SEC schools are getting in the way

Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:34 pm to
If they do that, the bathroom lines will be ridiculously long throughout the entire game.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2501 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:43 pm to
You can also add the fact that if beer were to be sold, a can would be what a 6 pack of cheap arse Dixie costs, and I assume most of the drinking would be from a group other than students. The cost would be in a level most college kids couldn't afford to sit and get shifaced . This is an assumption, & maybe I'm wrong. They should ask our governor if he could use $5 or $6 million 7 times a year. Wonder what is reaction would be. Drink Up !
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:49 pm to
I have no idea.
Just guessing to put some numbers up.

Maybe only 25% would buy beers?
I don't be intersted on seeing actual numbers should they allow it though.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Actually has more to do with the Baptist population in gumpland that creates this whole problem.


No, they are concerned with the escalation of bad behavior and fights. It’s already pretty bad. There are also liability issues.

It’s a bad idea but it will eventually happen.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35137 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:53 pm to
What if we just tell them to go frick themselves and start selling anyways. It’s unreal that this still isn’t allowed
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35137 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:56 pm to
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No, they are concerned with the escalation of bad behavior and fights. It’s already pretty bad. There are also liability issues.

It’s a bad idea but it will eventually happen.
1. It’s really not that bad
2. Selling beer won’t have any effect on that. People are going to get drunk and fight if they want to with or without selling beer
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29565 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:59 pm to
Can we please sell bourbon drinks? Lsu could expand the stadium to 130k if it happened
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
885 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:07 pm to
imo, this is about what has to be done not what the league would like to do. There is a growing realization that many schools have out spent their revenue base. TV money drives most sports but particularly football. There are fewer fans in the stadiums, fewer donors in the boxes and every likelihood that the next tv contract will be less not more. Schools need new revenue sources to fund these ridiculously expensive programs. Really, it's just that simple.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:54 pm to
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There would be less binging before the game and hard liquor smuggling into the game


lol no.



Umm yes

They've done plenty of research on this on college campuses for big time college football.

I sneak liquor in, but I wouldn't for warm weather games if I could drink beer.

Also prevents people from chugging liquor before games to get as drunk as possible so "it lasts the whole game".

Also keeps people in the stadium longer, buying concessions and cheering on the team.

Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:56 pm to
Luckily for us this isn't the trash league with trash fans NFL.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:13 pm to
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There is simply no way whatsoever it would be that high. Zero.


From someone who's spent many years in Tiger Stadium, 46K is low for the amount of people drinking. I personally don't know anyone who doesn't drink during the game.

Let's break it down...there are 19K+ premium seats in Tiger Stadium with access to alcohol. As I pointed out before, 100% of the new SEZ expansion is designated as premium seating. That's 9-10K right there between the 66 suites (15 seats and standing room for 23 more for a total of 3,518), South clubs (6,500+), and Skyline Club (1,500+). The West club space holds 7,500. There are 70 suites on the East side with an avg capacity of 30 or about 2,100 fans.

That leaves around 30K to be found in the lower bowl and in the east and west UD's to make up 46K.

I'm telling you that's easily done. Flasks are standard equipment for LSU fans.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6127 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:01 pm to
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f the wording of the conference rule is that alcohol sales aren't allowed in the stadium, then beer vendors should be allowed to set up immediately outside of the gates of the stadium, so attendees can go downstairs during the game, buy what they want, and re-enter. 
I understand Tiger Stadium has a "no re-entry" policy, but a few stadiums have used roped off areas outside for smoking areas with no issues, so the same thing can be done for beer vendors. 

Edit: Using this method would also weed out the way-too-drunk who would have to weave all the way down and all the way back up.


VCU does something similar for their basketball games.

Essentially at halftime, certain season ticket holders can go to this practice gym/or facility that's just outside the arena. Drink a couple of beers and then head back in.
Posted by TG_
Member since Mar 2018
340 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Why do people "binge" before the game as it is?


Because there’s nothing better to do on a warm fall gameday in Baton Rouge besides get shitty with 100,000 of your closest pals

quote:

If they sold beer inside, MANY people would just drink "normally"


Meh, to each their own. I’d still drink heavily and buy one or two $14 beers once inside.

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people would absolutley be less drunk overall if they could buy beer inside I truly believe that.


I don’t disagree with this statement, but I wouldn’t say the majority partly due to the atmosphere and prices
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:27 pm to
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Why do people "binge" before the game as it is? Because they have no access inside other than whatever they smuggle in. When I was a younger fellow I would drink heavily outside then smuggle in a bag of whiskey and get absolutely stumbling around shitfaced. I don't drink liquor much these days but i DO still drink as much as I can put down prior to going in. If they sold beer inside, MANY people would just drink "normally" outside then continue drinking beer inside. It's no different than a concert or an NBA game for instance. People who truly want to blackout are going to do it anyway, whether it's beforehand, taking product inside, or buying inside. So rules aren't going to stop those people. But the majority of people would absolutley be less drunk overall if they could buy beer inside I truly believe that.


This. When the PAC 12 forced SC (the last school in the conference to sell alcohol at games) to stop selling, people started coming into the coliseum completely smashed, stumbling drunk, causing fights, etc. It took a couple of seasons for it to calm down a bit but people are still way more drunk at the beginning of the games than before. They used to get drunk in the 3rd quarter when they sold beer at the games.
Now SC has opened up some of the fencing around the stadium and created beer gardens to get around the PAC 12. Have to be a donor or pay a fee to get in the beer gardens.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:56 pm to
You really think the “visitor” wants the tiger fans to have the ability to keep the tanks full after a typical Tiger tail gate. Some may actually stay in the seats .
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17876 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:34 pm to
I don't understand why schools would give the SEC so much power as to control what each school can sell in their own stadium.

Isn't it the norm that the SEC opposes LSU? LSU is treated like the bastard, red-headed step child of the SEC.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:56 pm to
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Have someone leak to the media which schools are against to rack up the pressure.



It's crazy that this hasn't already leaked. I mean if you have a position on something, why keep in secret.

Hard to imagine they can't get 8 schools to vote for alcohol.
Posted by Bongi
Gonzales, LA
Member since Oct 2008
726 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:07 pm to
Sounds like a good week for their off week
Posted by GeauxDoc
Highland Road
Member since Sep 2010
2562 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:23 pm to
I think a lot of the estimates are high but there is still a lot of real revenue out there. Half a million per game would be a really easy target to hit. If 28,000 people have 2 beers at $10 (hey it's greedy LSU...expect right around a 10 spot) you over over a half million right there in gross sales.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2185 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Several unnamed member schools are blocking a path to overturn what many believe is an archaic policy. SEC bylaws restrict alcohol sales to private, controlled areas — in other words, premium seating.

But a gray area is emerging.

At least two SEC programs, Texas A&M and Auburn, opened this season a type of beer garden in their baseball stadiums, selling alcohol in sequestered areas removed from bleacher seating. LSU opened a football version of this in 2017 atop the south end zone, turning a 1,500-seat general admission area — with bleacher seating — into a designated space for alcohol sales that the school calls The Skyline Club.

Admittance into the spaces at Texas A&M and Auburn is $5. Tickets in the Skyline Club are $45 and up. The league approved plans for these newly created areas, as they met “the expectation on oversight, private area and controlled space for review


I'm pretty sure A&M is in favor of repealing the ban. However, I'm not sure that they will opt for venue-wide alcohol sales even if the ban is lifted because of how much money they have invested in club seating. Will people continue to spend thousands of dollars extra per seat to sit in the club section if they can buy alcohol throughout the stadium? I think every school save Vanderbilt has a substantial club section.

At baseball, for example, it's one thing to tell the "little people" that they can pay $10 for admission to the beer garden, and then $8.50 per beer to stand (not sit) down the left field line--nobody will give up their club seats for that--but if you let folks sitting throughout the park buy beer, why pay $2000 per seat more than the folks sitting across the aisle?
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