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re: If Sonny Corleone doesn't get whacked, does the Corleone family win the war?

Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:39 am to
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I don't think they do, Sonny was too much of a hot head. Something would go wrong and he would've lost his shite. I think Sonny met a fitting end for his personality type, even though I liked him as a character.


Sonny was gonna get whacked at some point.

What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:43 am to
He betrayed Michael with Johnny Ola and Hymann Roth. It led Ola to try and clip Michael.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:43 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.


What's not to understand?

Fredo betrayed the family and lied to Michael.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20472 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:47 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.


Fredo was barely above being a functioning retard. As long as he stayed away from the business, he seemed pretty harmless. Michael should have kept him confined to the estate and let him fish. Only whack him if he tried to get out of line again. I think Fredo knew it was only a matter of time though before he got one in the back of the head.

Sonny was a hothead. Michael was cool and calculated. Sonny may have eventually won the war, but at a much higher body count for his family and the others.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55851 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:49 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.
have you ever watched the movies
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90885 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:29 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.


Seriously? Because he betrayed Michael by working with Roth because Mike was being difficult in negotiations. Fredo was apparently just trying to make the deal go through and didn't know they were going to try to take out Mike. But it goes back to the first movie in Vegas where Mike warned Fredo not to ever take sides against the family again. Fredo does it again with Roth, and it becomes apparent the he cannot be trusted to stay in line with Michaels ambitions and will constantly undermine his strategy.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27730 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:58 am to
Fredo was a liability that Michael could ill afford to have. The fact that Michael does not kill him once he gets back from Cuba shows remarkable restraint on Michael's part. I'm sure that Fredo did not think his actions would lead to a hit on his brother but they did and all he had to do was to keep his mouth shut in Havana.....but as the Romans would say . In Vino Veritas
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69942 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:18 pm to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.




What's not to understand?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41237 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 8:58 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.


that was essential to the story

- it left Tom as Michael's only brother (this is the mafia, his only brother has no blood ties)

-Fredo was gay.


When Michel finally realized it, he knew instantly that Vito had been aware and it was Tom's job to keep it secret. Vito/Tom arranged to send Fredo to Vegas, 'for his protection'.
Mike, originally thought that Vito's issues with Fredo's sexuality was him "banging two cocktail waitress at a time" not him being homosexual.

Micheal decided that Fredo had to go, when he admitted to going with John O to strip clubs. It was then Fredo started talking about the size of men's dicks when in Cuba, Michael made his decision.
Your Capo dei capi, you can't have your brother going to gay strip clubs with you the Jewish mob's underboss.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109125 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:27 am to
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What I never understood was Michael killing Fredo.


You serious, Clark?
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