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re: Our President tweets on Amazon
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:41 pm to Texas Weazel
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:41 pm to Texas Weazel
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Time after Time, Donnie has shown he is not a real conservative.
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Time after Time, Donnie has shown he is not a real conservative.
Why because he's not for State subsidization of a private company? A company that's been suckling at the tit of government for 20 years?.... seems to me that this is exactly in line with conservative principles
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:42 pm to Seldom Seen
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and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!
With all due respect, if THIS is a major concern then WalMart should have a much bigger target on its back than Amazon.
Makes it seem like this really isn't something they care about.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:45 pm to mattloc
Other than one bogus Op-Ed (since when did Op-Eds become a substitute for actual reporting and/or financial analysis?), do you have any proof that Amazon is not paying its share of federal taxes?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:46 pm to CorporateTiger
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:47 pm to mattloc
quote:IT'S NOT A SUBSIDY
Why because he's not for State subsidization of a private company?
frick
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:48 pm to CorporateTiger
Can you link me to your financial analysis that shows that Amazon's discounted rate is profitable for USPS.... and again explain to me why one company should be using taxpayer assets at a discounted rate.... not available to any other tax-paying company
If the USPS can make money at the rates they charge Amazon why are they not available to all? Has postage now become a new tax
If the USPS can make money at the rates they charge Amazon why are they not available to all? Has postage now become a new tax
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:50 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:More willing to work for less money, yes.
You think these entitlements make their recipients MORE willing to work than they would be if they didn't receive them?
If a person needs $30k to live, but gets 'only' $15k from entitlements, that person would likely take an unskilled position that pays $7.50/hr to make up the other $15k. And with so many people getting these entitlements, there is a large pool of people willing to work for that low pay.
If the entitlements dry up, $15k simply doesn't do it. Fewer people will be willing to work for $7.50/hr because it is pointless -- it no longer makes ends meet. The person has basically three options: turn to crime, work twice as many hours, or get educated / learn a trade. The pool of cheap labor will shrink, and Walmart will be forced to raise pay to fill positions.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:52 pm to mattloc
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Of course it is a complicated issue..... and there is little information available to the public to know exactly what Amazon is paying compared to other retailers. We do know they get a sharply discounted rate. Which seems to be Trump's point. Why should taxpayers who, without choice, pay for the right to use the services and assets of the US Postal Service be charged differently. These this is not a private company where the individual companies have a right to establish their own business practices and policies.
No, it's really not that complicated.
Amazon (and many other online retailers, FYI) negotiate bulk rates with USPS for parcel delivery. It's available to any business out there. In fact, you can walk into USPS today and get bulk rates as a private citizen.
What we do know is that USPS's parcel delivery service is the only business that is turning a profit. We can therefore be fairly confident that USPS is making money off Amazon, not some economic jiggery that includes legacy costs on a contract that is just a few years old.
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:53 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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No, it's really not that complicated. Amazon (and many other online retailers, FYI) negotiate bulk rates with USPS for parcel delivery. It's available to any business out there. In fact, you can walk into USPS today and get bulk rates as a private citizen for both parcels and first class mail. What we do know is that USPS's parcel delivery service is the only business that is turning a profit. We can therefore be fairly confident that USPS is making money off Amazon, not some economic jiggery that includes legacy costs on a contract that is just a few years old.
This is common knowledge
but these guys defending this dumbass tweet clearly can't grasp this.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:54 pm to mattloc
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Can you link me to your financial analysis that shows that Amazon's discounted rate is profitable for USPS
The PRC has not rejected their Negotiated Service Agreement, despite reviewing it yearly.
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and again explain to me why one company should be using taxpayer assets at a discounted rate.... not available to any other tax-paying company
Are you under the impression that Amazon is the only company with a NSA? Or are you just arguing that negotiated agreements shouldn’t be.... you know negotiated.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:55 pm to mattloc
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If the USPS can make money at the rates they charge Amazon why are they not available to all? Has postage now become a new tax
If Mattel can make money at the prices they charge Walmart for their toys, why are they not available to all?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 2:58 pm to StraightCashHomey21
What you can't grasp is that the US Postal Service tells Congress every time they raise rates that the raises are required to cover their expenses.... now they're making money at the discounted Amazon rates.... so which is it? If the post office can make money at a discounted rate paid by Amazon. Why can't they be profitable with the same rate being offered to small businesses and all other taxpayers?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:00 pm to mattloc
We have already mentioned the actual answer to this question many times in this thread. Go do some reading and think about it:
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:00 pm to mattloc
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What you can't grasp is that the US Postal Service tells Congress every time they raise rates that the raises are required to cover their expenses.... now they're making money at the discounted Amazon rates.... so which is it? If the post office can make money at a discounted rate paid by Amazon. Why can't they be profitable with the same rate being offered to small businesses and all other taxpayers?
Do you understand the concept of economies of scale?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:01 pm to mattloc
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What you can't grasp is that the US Postal Service tells Congress every time they raise rates that the raises are required to cover their expenses.... now they're making money at the discounted Amazon rates.... so which is it? If the post office can make money at a discounted rate paid by Amazon. Why can't they be profitable with the same rate being offered to small businesses and all other taxpayers?
Um what? Do you really not understand scale of economics? Then mayhaps not post in the thread?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:01 pm to CorporateTiger
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The PRC has not rejected their Negotiated Service Agreement, despite reviewing it yearly.
Irrelevant. .. and coming from a highly suspect bureaucratic source.
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Are you under the impression that Amazon is the only company with a NSA? Or are you just arguing that negotiated agreements shouldn’t be.... you know negotiated.
I have no problem with negotiations between private companies... Trump's point, and I believe he is right is that the US taxpayer is building Jeff Bezos Fortune.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:02 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
If you point out to me the flaw in my reasoning I will gladly do so... or maybe it is that you don't understand economics yourself
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:02 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Do you understand the concept of economies of scale?
Threads like this the last few weeks of disaster from this administration is exposing the true believers.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:04 pm to mattloc
So the independent body with the ability to reject an unprofitable deal for USPS is LESS credible than a guy with a conflict of interest writing an Op-Ed. Brilliant!
Posted on 3/29/18 at 3:04 pm to Seldom Seen
I would support Amazon if they weren't liberal bitches
Shut them down mr trump!
Shut them down mr trump!
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