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re: Many around the program – and outside of it – compare the scheme Ensminger is implementing

Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:34 pm to
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I skimmed the article you posted earlier, but didn’t see anything mentioned by either about his SB ring, but I may have missed it


Yeah, if I said he mentioned the ring, I was incorrect. I thought I said he mentioned the players Cregg put in the NFL and the freshman and upper-class guy he coached up to All-Americans.

The guys he put in the NFL were mentioned but it was by the author of the article.

Kenyon only mentioned his coaching in the NFL.

"Green, who ranks as the top overall prospect from the Lone Star State, was focused on forming a bond with Cregg before leaving Baton Rouge. Consider that a success.

Cregg, who has coached current NFL linemen such as Tyron Smith and Matt Kalil, has brought that same demeanor to his new position at LSU. That caught Green’s attention in a convincing way.

“It went great,” Kenyon Green told SEC Country. “I had a chance to get to know Coach Cregg and get a better feel for him. I was impressed by the way he coaches and how he interacted with his players. It’s the same stuff that he was dong when he was coaching in the NFL.”"

I may have been wrong or it could have possibly been in another article that I read it. I was bitched at for starting multiple Kenyon threads on the recruiting board. It was before the visit though.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:40 pm to
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whenever I think of him I envision him holding the super bowl trophy.


frick! That sounds creepy.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:44 pm to
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So nothing about the SB ring...I figured as much


Okay, I have looked at my posts.

Show me where I ever said Kenyon said anything about a super bowl ring dumbshit.

I should have figured as much that you had no clue what the hell you were talking about.

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Unless you’re talking about a well-known SB champion, like Brady, Montana, Belichick, etc,, I don’t think the ring will resonate with a high school football player


Even a high school player who dreams of playing in the NFL. A high player who wants to buy his mother or grandmother a new house for raising him as a single parent? Yeah, don't play for the guy who has coached in the NFL, coached for a team that reached the pinnacle of the sport, don't play for a guy who has put players in the NFL.

Go play for someone who has done none of those things and toss the dice with your life. It's their decision.

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The ring would have to be worn by a player or coach that is widely considered “great” to make a significant impact on most recruits


In your opinion of course.

How many O-line coaches in the SEC were all-conference as a player, had two seasons in two P5 conferences where his team gave up the fewest sacks in a season 12 & 8 for entire years, coached in the NFL, coached for a team that won the super bowl, coached a freshmen all-American and another on AA on the same team, had put multiple players at his position in the NFL?

There must be a bunch of them I'll wait for the list.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:50 pm to
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I'm not following how a SB ring is a testament to a coach's ability to get someone to the NFL.


Try to follow along here.

Recruit wants to play in NFL.

Has a coach he can play for at his position that coached in the NFL. Player has to wonder if a guy who coached at the highest level in football can possibly get him there.

Has to think that not only did he coach in the NFL but he was a good enough coach to be able to coach in the super bowl. Has to wonder if the offensive line had anything at all to do with the team getting to the super bowl. He's not a Rantard so yes he knows the O-line had to have something to do with it.

Has to wonder if the NFL guy who coached for a team who won the super bowl is better to play for than a coach who has done neither.

His decision.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:53 pm to
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Hotlips Tom Herman did pretty good in his first year at UH with a new and patchwork coaching staff Went 13-1 losing to UCONN but they beat FSU.


Pretty good? 13-1 is a hell of alot better than pretty good. Some folks on the rant were happy as clams (yourself included) with o going 9-4 this past year.

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BUT, I wouldn't want his second season.


Herman went 9-3 his second season. Houston as a team went 9-4. The same fricking record that o had last year, and you guys were giddy as kids in a candy store over that record.

frick Ree, you never cease to amaze me with the shite you post.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:54 pm to
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frick! That sounds creepy.


Glad you showed up. I'm going to be out most of next week.

Do you only want me to inform you during the season? Or off-season also so you can see if there are any trends or anything?

quote:

frick! That sounds creepy.


I would agree if he wasn't coaching for LSU.


Posted by ByUselves
On a Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:55 pm to
Just seeing this. Sounds great.

As all folks down south understand,

The Proof is in the Roux!
Posted by Tiger in Tampa
Illinois
Member since Jul 2008
159 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:55 pm to
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Show me where I ever said Kenyon said anything about a super bowl ring dumbshit.


I didn’t say you did. You have argued that a SB ring is something that recruits value in coaches. While I think it doesn’t hurt that a coach has one, I don’t think it’s a major factor. I was just giving you the opportunity to prove me wrong. Am I a “dumbshit” because you couldn’t provide anything from a recruit that talked about their admiration for Cregg’s SB ring??

Go outside and play.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:02 pm to
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Herman went 9-3 his second season. Houston as a team went 9-4. The same fricking record that o had last year, and you guys were giddy as kids in a candy store over that record.


Was LSU ranked #6 in the country at any time last year. Did they have by far the most talent in the SEC like UH did in the AAC? Was LSU favored to win a game by 23 points and lose by 22 while gaining 303 yards against a team with a losing overall and conference record? Did LSU do that in the coach's second season? Did LSU go from ranked top 10 to unranked?

Things to consider.

ETA: and there is even more.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 9:03 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Glad you showed up.


You are fricking creepy! And perhaps a touch on the gay side. Not that there's anything wrong with that Ree.

quote:

I'm going to be out most of next week.


Coach o giving you some time off? That's good I suppose. You better let Space Clownboy know so he can pick up your slack posting on the rant.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93740 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:10 pm to
You could consider that while Herman was running a championship offense with a 3rd string QB, Orgeron was an unemployed defensive line coach.

You could also consider that Herman has more quality wins than Orgeron.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:19 pm to
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Was LSU ranked #6 in the country at any time last year.


Did Houston play 6 teams with 500 or worse winning percentages? Did Houston play 5 teams that fired their head coaches during the season?

I don't give a hoot about who's ranked where. 9-4 is 9-4 dummy.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:22 pm to
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YOU sound like YOU could do A better job than Ensminger...... 



you sound like you dont know what a bootleg is.
we all know you dont.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

You could consider that while Herman was running a championship offense with a 3rd string QB


you talking about when he was coaching for Urban and his championship team? The guy who never won multiple championships without Hotlips? Is that what you are talking about?

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Orgeron was an unemployed defensive line coach.


His choice. he could have stayed at USC and knew he was coming to LSU.

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You could also consider that Herman has more quality wins than Orgeron.


Right now but that won't last long.

How many quality wins did Hotlips have last season? SJSU? Iowa St? Baylor? Kansas? Ooops had put Texas Tech but Hotlips lost that game.

Texas should be worse this year even if Kissing-Bandit doesn't suffer the sophomore slump like the only other time he was a head coach somewhere.

For the record how many quality wins does Hotlips have? Three?

OU, FSU, Louisville?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93740 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:27 pm to
I honestly don't know how many quality wins Herman has. I just know it's more than 1.
Posted by Tiger in Tampa
Illinois
Member since Jul 2008
159 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:28 pm to
You seem really fixated on Herman’s lips and the fact that he kisses dudes...I mean every time you post about him you bring it up. You must want some of that sugar for yourself ????
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

I don't give a hoot about who's ranked where. 9-4 is 9-4 dummy.


Well that's you smart guy.

Personally, I think it sucks to take a team from being ranked #6 going into the sixth game of the season to unranked after the 8th game is quite an accomplishment.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24557 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

You seem really fixated on Herman’s lips and the fact that he kisses dudes...I mean every time you post about him you bring it up


I got the Hotlips from a very disgruntled Longhorn fan. I was actually pissed when I saw it. I love MASH and have recordings and watch if often. I probably came up with freaking kissing-bandit on a day I watched MASH and heard the term Hotlips.

Anyway, I like the UT fan's nickname better and stole it. It's funny how you don't even have to use the name anymore and errbody knows exactly who you are talking about.

quote:

You must want some of that sugar for yourself ????


Oh hell no, Lips belongs to Richmomma. No one would want to get between them, EVER.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13018 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

finally we're abandoning the FB


That took longer than most LA DOTD projects.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59130 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

I would agree if he wasn't coaching for LSU.


No it’s still sad and pathetic
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