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Saints #1 in Mel Kipers Re-Graded 2017 Draft Grades

Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:45 pm
Posted by gotiger
Delray Beach, FL
Member since Feb 2009
2775 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:45 pm
Post Draft Grade: B

"Where do we start with the class that had both the offensive and defensive rookies of the year? It was sensational, one of the best rookie groups since I've been covering the draft. Cornerback Marshon Lattimore locked down one side of the field and had five interceptions. Ryan Ramczyk started every game, making a flawless switch from left tackle to right tackle once Terron Armstead came back healthy. Safety Marcus Williams is going to be remembered for the touchdown he gave up in the divisional-round loss to the Vikings, but he's a really good player. He had four interceptions and 71 tackles.

Then there's running back Alvin Kamara, a pick I questioned last year. Here's what I wrote: "A big question mark here was the value given up to draft Kamara. Even if you question any possibilities beyond 2017 for Mark Ingram or Adrian Peterson, trading a second-rounder to move up and take my No. 88 overall player is iffy."

OK, so the Saints traded a 2018 second-round pick to move into the third round in 2017 -- and got one of the most versatile backs in the NFL. Kamara led all rookies in receptions (81) and yards after the catch (696), and averaged 6.0 yards per carry. He had 14 total touchdowns. I got this one wrong. Absolutely.

New Orleans also got meaningful snaps from Alex Anzalone, who started the first four games before hurting his shoulder and being placed on injured reserve, and defensive end Trey Hendrickson, who had two sacks.

Again, this is a fantastic class. Enjoy this A, Saints.

New grade: A"
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11715 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:55 pm to
should be A+
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6339 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:55 pm to
Kamara was a gamble, no doubt. Knowing Payton’s history in working with running backs and QBs, I would feel comfortable with any player he feels strongly about at those positions.

Hopefully we strike gold again this year
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116318 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

I got this one wrong. Absolutely.


No shite
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9246 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:56 pm to
Eating some crow, Great read.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

I got this one wrong


quote:

Mel Kiper


Checks out
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10211 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:01 pm to
Kiper deserves a D right up his A
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9326 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30137 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 11:54 am to
We just need 1 starter and 1 rotational player at minimum in this next draft and it'll be perfectly fine. Ideally we can get 3 total contributors since the only real opening spots are: WR2/3, TE1/2, backup QB, backup OL, backup DL, backup DB.
We have 8 total picks, realistically it'll end somewhere around 5 total IMHO. Obviously getting like 8 starters would be perfect, but lets be realistic right?

Since 2015 we have this many contributors. So hopefully in 4 drafts we land 11 starters and 9 rotation guys, that's legit.

Starters (10):
- Andrus Peat (1st)
- Sheldon Rankins (1st)
- Marshon Lattimore (1st)
- Ryan Ramczyk (1st)
- Michael Thomas (2nd)
- Marcus Williams (2nd)
- Alvin Kamara (3rd - costed a 2nd)
- Tyeler Davison (5th)
- Will Lutz (UDFA)
- Ken Crawley (UDFA)

Rotational (7):
- Hau'oli Kikaha (2nd)
- Vonn Bell (2nd)
- PJ Williams (3rd)
- Alex Anzalone (3rd)
- Trey Hendrickson (3rd)
- David Onyemata (4th)
- Daniel Lasco (7th)

Misses (5):
- Stephone Anthony (1st)
- Garrett Grayson (3rd)
- Davis Tull (5th)
- Damian Swann (5th - He was ok before concussions, but ultimately a fail)
- Marcus Murphy (7th)

Unknown (1):
- AQ Muhammad (6th)


So in the last 3 years:
4/5 on 1st rounders (4 starters)
4/4 on 2nd rounders (2 starters, 2 rotational)
4/5 on 3rd rounders (1 starter, 3rotational)
1/1 on 4th rounders (1 rotational)
1/3 on 5th rounders (1 starter)
0/1 on 6th rounders (Its an unknown with Muhammad, I'll count as a fail)
1/2 on 7th rounders (1 rotational - special teamer)
+2 UDFAs (2 starters - 1 special teamer)

This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 2:02 pm
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