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re: We can’t compete with bama at this rate

Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6297 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Alabama has a lot of talent and most of their players won’t play. While LSU has a lot of young players and this gives the new players a chance to show their stuff. If you were a recruit what would you choose . A ring or a chance to play and get an NFL contract.


Alabama played 6 true freshman on offense in crunch time of the National Championship.

1.Jerry Juedy
2.Devonta Smith
3.Henry Ruggs
4.Najee Harris
5.Alex Leatherwood
6.Tua Tagoviaola

Plenty of young players play at Alabama every year. Plenty are 3 years and on to 1st Rd NFL money. Nobody has had more 3 and done 1st Rd players than Alabama the last 10 years.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20363 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:28 pm to
Miles was their coach too.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:26 pm to
Wonder what would be said if a white recruit had a sweatshirt on that said white in big bold letters.
Right across the front.


Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13343 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:39 pm to
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Whatever bama is doing with these chargers to players must be legal in the ncaa’s eyes. It is literally a joke on here that there players get these cars and new players keep getting them. Its time to start getting our recruits corvettes or something the same legal way that bama is doing it.

Just a hypothetical to illustrate "legal in the NCAA's" eyes.

So let's say there is a dodge dealership/owner willing to play ball. He's offering no money down, no payments for 4 years, student discount. We've all seen promotionals, that meet the truth in lending laws, of similar. This is way further than that, but terms are terms.

To be legal in the NCAA's eyes if has to be AVAILABLE, not offered, but available to all of those students. The reason you include the student discount it to limit it to students as part of the loan package and to not make it available to the gen pop.

Like any other loan, and you see it on the paperwork, spoken real fast on radio, and in small print on the TV... such things as "limited supply" and "subject to credit application".

So if your dealership owner is really on board, they don't limit any student. But they don't advertise it anywhere. They aren't required to. But if a random student figures it out, he'll get him one too.

If he's not that invested, they just set the credit score or other requirements high and make exceptions to go low (or do the co-signer thing). This pushes the envelope, but it is better than setting low and then not making it available to a qualifying everyday student. You dang sure can't make exclusionary exceptions, only inclusion exceptions.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40253 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:54 pm to
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Alabama has a lot of talent and most of their players won’t play. While LSU has a lot of young players and this gives the new players a chance to show their stuff


Buddy, The Bama players who don’t play would not have gone to the NFL had they chosen LSU. The NFL finds the good players. Remember James Wright caught zero passes his senior year, and he still got into the NFL.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:01 pm to
Life is good for Lyndell Mack Wilson. A nice car and championships to play for every year, I would go there too. Lol Not really, I wouldn't sell out my home state like some of these guys do, I'm not making Alabama a winner at the expense of my home state.
Posted by EXPLAYER
Member since Jul 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:16 pm to
Sad. Bama , Bama , Bama you pussies should move to Bama . I am sure you can get a nice trailer on the cheap on a nice piece of ground not to far from the dump
Posted by Flem
Member since Feb 2018
154 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Just a hypothetical to illustrate "legal in the NCAA's" eyes. So let's say there is a dodge dealership/owner willing to play ball. He's offering no money down, no payments for 4 years, student discount. We've all seen promotionals, that meet the truth in lending laws, of similar. This is way further than that, but terms are terms.


Hypothetically they could limit it to just Bama Athletes. Right?
Posted by blackmouthcur
Member since Sep 2016
400 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:32 pm to
Suicide is painless, loser.
Posted by ricker300
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2007
338 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 11:55 pm to
He could be standing next to a friend or relative's car. Just saying. I doubt it though.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:36 am to
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No failed drug test at Bama.


Only convictions for drug dealing.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14532 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:18 am to
Bama Football - NCAA nothing to see here move along.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 6:25 am to
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Charger is a trash car.....Dodges are from old Plymouth line that the Pilgrims drove


When you are 18 with no car does it really matter? it has to last a tops 4 years
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 7:54 am to
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Tennessee, Auburn, and Alabama all among the top 5 in the country as far as cost of attendance stipend payouts.


And yet literally zero VOLS players are rolling around in a brand new BMW*

eta: *that they didn't have prior to recruitment
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 7:55 am
Posted by dbonnett
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2016
437 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:27 am to
Stupid thread.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73654 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:36 am to
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All players get cost of attendance stipends. Alabama pays OOS about $600.00 per month. These kids can all afford a car note. It's been that way for 3 or 4 years now.


Okay, sucker.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13343 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:47 am to
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Hypothetically they could limit it to just Bama Athletes. Right?
that's definitely against the rules. Improper benefits are, or ONE of the definitions, something available to athletes only. They can limit it to Bama only... but not just atheletes.

The way to bust it is to figure out:
A) is it limited to Bama only? If not, have a 1,000 LSU students apply. Either the owner will pull the promotion/package or you get 500 lawsuits for denying application.

B) If limited to Bama students only, have LSU/AU/UT boosters pay regular Bama students to go apply as the same in (a).

Much of it goes back to the jobs athletes used to get. $1000 a week to turn on sprinklers on the practice field once a week and similar. $1000 a week is ok, as long as other non-athletes get the same pay/job. Of course no-show jobs are without a doubt a no-no, a big one.

And now-a-days you also have to worry about such things as labor/discrimination laws, private funding for a public job, etc.

That's how schools like Nebraska used to effectively use Preferred Walkons. Why worry about a scholarship when a booster is going to pay you more than the value for such a job. You can't do it anymore, especially with cash, jobs, gifts, apartments, etc.

The 'loophole' is in loans (and 'escrow' money). As long as it's not exclusive to athletes only, and the loan terms are 'reasonable'. 'Reasonable' is defined by the market, and if offering it to a market of 'all students', the NCAA considers it reasonable.

Just remember, the NCAA rules are very vague for a reason (in many cases). It gives the NCAA more room to maneuver AND they do not have a burden of proof. So if they were to go after Bama, or any other school, they could for violating the 'spirit' of the rule. Of course they would have multiple law suits to fight if they do that. Hell, OM and OM boosters were threatening to sue the NCAA and in that case they had specific rules, not 'spirit', violations AND proof. They still feared their lawyers.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 8:52 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51194 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:48 am to
This thread is full of pussy
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18198 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:13 am to
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The players can get a ring and bask in the sun of the good old days or they can go to a school that is known for putting college players in the NFL and make them millions.
Bama doesn't put players in the NFL? I must've missed the memo on that.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73654 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Bama doesn't put players in the NFL?


No. Players put themselves in the NFL when the NFL offers them money.

Just kidding.

Bama skips the NFL and puts players straight into the hall of fame.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:34 pm
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