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re: Violent video games and desensitization
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:43 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:43 pm to FooManChoo
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Why don't we blame killers for killing and stop trying to blame inanimate objects that don't force millions of others into murder?
1- A gun is an inanimate object.
2- A game is a simulation.
It's 2 different things. You should study what we did to people in the 50s. Things like using LSD on people to program them. You take a 19 year old kid who plays violent games and on drugs it changes the mind. It's something we should not ignore.
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:44 pm to uway
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That isolation and atomization is a new thing.
John Donne once wrote that "no man is an island, entire of itself." That's no longer true. Technology has given men and women the ability to be completely isolated from the real world. People talk about banning guns, but you'd most certainly have less of these shootings if IPhones and IPads never existed.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:44 pm to Jjdoc
No one wants to talk about the real cause of this evil. Most of society has been brainwashed into scientific fiction nonsense. Rejection of God Almighty and Jesus Christ is the root cause. All you people brainwashed into evolution, and Darwinism are part of the problem and have no clue.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:47 pm to Jyrdis
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I've played violent video games since the 90s. I don't have and haven't had an urge to go kill someone.
And not everybody who drinks will become an alcoholic, but some are genetically more likely to from use than others.
We know for a fact that social media has a negative addiction for kids.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:48 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Why video games? What about tv and Hollywood?
Video games you take part in, but yes to a lesser degree TV and Hollywood work towards that end
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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lso, the bolded is almost certainly not true. This is no more or less barbaric than the myriad forms of barbarity which humans have always committed
I think everyone should have to read On Killing by Dave Grossman.
Read about how the military and police changed their targets from bullseyes to realistic silhouettes after they realized how soldiers and policemen were actually behaving in firefights.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:51 pm to uway
quote:Not sure what that changes about humanity's horrific track record of barbarity. I think everyone should read Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels of Our Nature".
I think everyone should have to read On Killing by Dave Grossman.
Read about how the military and police changed their targets from bullseyes to realistic silhouettes after they realized how soldiers and policemen were actually behaving in firefights.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:54 pm to Jjdoc
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And not everybody who drinks will become an alcoholic, but some are genetically more likely to from use than others.
We know for a fact that social media has a negative addiction for kids.
So what's the point of this thread? Based on your analogy, are some people more genetically predisposed to become mass murderers using guns? If so, seems like we would be able to determine that beforehand based on genetic markers.
I don't understand what violent video games and desensitization has to do with anything. Please explain.
Besides, the study you linked was by some psychologists (paging Buckeye_Vol) and we all know none of them are worth their salt except Kahnemann and Tversky.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:02 pm to Jjdoc
Its that damn Marilyn Manson making kids go on shooting sprees again.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
Mistook you for an anti 2A
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:05 pm to uway
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Read about how the military and police changed their targets from bullseyes to realistic silhouettes after they realized how soldiers and policemen were actually behaving in firefights.
Exactly. We did testing on people MK-Ultra for example
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:08 pm to Jjdoc
Humans just aren’t naturally good at killing one another. They have to be trained into it. Video games that let them go on murderous rampages are very good training for going on murderous rampages, turns out.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Not sure what that changes about humanity's horrific track record of barbarity.
Regardless of your rational to the over all human experience, people are different and react differently to certain stimulus.
You may be able to take a certain drug and not become addicted. Others, with 2 doses..... hooked.
To throw a blanket thought on this is just to ignore studies on it.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:17 pm to Jyrdis
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I don't understand what violent video games and desensitization has to do with anything. Please explain.
It makes (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images. Therefore the value of the situation is no longer there.
Whereas most people would not do it for the simple shock and value in a life, those desensitized it doesn't bother.
You look in that kids eye.... It did not bother him... there was nothing there.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:24 pm to Jjdoc
Because there is just as much research (really more research) saying this effect doesn’t exist. You think weed kills people, so I’m not expecting you to believe me.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:25 pm to Jjdoc
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It makes (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images.
That’s a neat opinion. But that’s all it is.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:25 pm to uway
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Humans just aren’t naturally good at killing one another. They have to be trained into it. Video games that let them go on murderous rampages are very good training for going on murderous rampages, turns out.
We have been using video games for decades to train soldiers. Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) is one of them.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:26 pm to Jjdoc
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makes (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images. Therefore the value of the situation is no longer there.
So why in a country like Japan that, shares our appetite for violent videogames and media,do we not see these type of massacres? Same with European countries and any other country where violent media and games are played by millions of people. Access to guns is the obvious answer but is it something else?
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:27 pm to rbWarEagle
No it's not. We have known this for a long time. From CIA work in the 50s all the through to today.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:29 pm to Jjdoc
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You look in that kids eye.... It did not bother him... there was nothing there.
Uhh...maybe.
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It makes (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images. Therefore the value of the situation is no longer there.
Then link research that "proves" this. What you linked was an article that linked to a research paper that had a broken link. Besides, saying it's just video games is short sighted considering the vast amounts of media that people are exposed to these days.
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