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FDA regulation endangering flu victims in the USA--people dying while FDA stands in way
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:15 am
A drug that will kill the flu virus rampaging the world will be available in Japan in March. It will not allowed for sale in the USA until next year at the earliest.
How many US citizens that this bureaucracy claims to protect will die while the Japanese manufacturer jumps through the FDA hoops?
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Why, you might ask, would the government treat us so badly??
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How many US citizens that this bureaucracy claims to protect will die while the Japanese manufacturer jumps through the FDA hoops?
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As Americans suffer through the worst influenza outbreak in almost a decade, a Japanese drugmaker says it has developed a pill that can kill the virus within a day. But even if the experimental drug lives up to the claim, it likely won’t be available in the U.S. until next year at the earliest.
A late-stage trial on Japanese and American flu patients found that for the people who took the Shionogi 4507 -3.04% & Co. compound, the median time taken to wipe out the virus was 24 hours. That is much quicker than any other flu drug on the market, including Roche AG’s RHHBY -0.07% Tamiflu, which the trial showed took three times longer to achieve the same result. Quickly killing the virus could reduce its contagious effects, Shionogi said.
Also, Shionogi’s experimental drug requires only a single dose, while patients need to take two doses of Tamiflu a day, for five days.
Both Shionogi’s compound and Tamiflu take roughly the same amount of time to entirely contain flu symptoms, but Shionogi says its compound provides immediate relief faster.
Scientists at the Japanese company leveraged their work on a blockbuster anti-HIV drug to create the compound, which works differently from existing flu medicines. It blocks the flu virus from hijacking human cellular machinery, Chief Executive Isao Teshirogi said. Switzerland’s Roche has acquired the international license to distribute Shionogi’s experimental drug.
Flu Fighter
A Japanese company says it can prevent the flu virus from hijacking human cells.
“The data that we’ve seen looks very promising,” said Martin Howell Friede, who leads the World Health Organization’s advisory on vaccines, including for influenza. “This could be a breakthrough in the way that we treat influenza.”
Shionogi said Japan’s drug regulator is fast-tracking its approval and could approve it for use in Japan as early as March. The regulator declined to comment. Roche and Shionogi say they will apply for U.S. approval this summer and Shionogi doesn’t expect a decision until next year.
Why, you might ask, would the government treat us so badly??
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Other players including Johnson & Johnson , AstraZeneca PLC and a startup backed by Merck & Co. are testing new compounds to treat influenza A, the most common flu strain.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:17 am to I B Freeman
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A drug that will kill the flu virus rampaging the world will be available in Japan in March. It will not allowed for sale in the USA until next year at the earliest.
You don't kill a virus, baw. Didn't read after beginning with nonsense.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:19 am to I B Freeman
What is it about the word, 'experimental' that you don't understand?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:22 am to I B Freeman
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How many US citizens that this bureaucracy claims to protect will die while the Japanese manufacturer jumps through the FDA hoops?
So if they find the drug has after effects 6 months later that causes blindness, idiots like you will scream that the FDA let us down.
frick man, not every single thing these agencies do are bad! If someone walked up to you with a pill from Japan and asked you to take it at your own risk, would you?
But I do understand their WELL deserved bad reputation for being a red tape nightmare.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:00 am to I B Freeman
I do not know about the OPs story, but I can tell you the FDA is a corrupt, bribe taking organization.
Big Pharma own them and many drugs that can saves lives never make it out.
Not conspiracy, just fact.
Big Pharma own them and many drugs that can saves lives never make it out.
Not conspiracy, just fact.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:01 am to I B Freeman
But some televangelist went on record saying we have a duck season and a deer season but not a flu season, and we don't need to get flu shots.
Of course her church caused a huge measles outbreak a few years back due to their beliefs.
Of course her church caused a huge measles outbreak a few years back due to their beliefs.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:05 am to I B Freeman
Government regulations are more about protecting markets than protecting consumers.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:50 am to I B Freeman
How do you feel about the FDA's approval of eteplirsen?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:19 pm to I B Freeman
Trump should shut down the fda. It's a crying shame that they make drugs for people with self inflicted diseases like AIDS but deny us innocent hangover sufferers medical treatment
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:34 pm to I B Freeman
Gotta prevent that Zombie apocalypse. Let the Japanese unleash the T-Virus on their population. We'll watch.
And I got that zombie apocalypse insurance anyhoo. So I'm good.
And I got that zombie apocalypse insurance anyhoo. So I'm good.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:46 pm to I B Freeman
So, pharma companies that spend billions lobbying to the US have been able to steal their formula and are working on their version to be approved by FDA? Wouldn't surprise me.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 2:10 pm to I B Freeman
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Both Shionogi’s compound and Tamiflu take roughly the same amount of time to entirely contain flu symptoms, but Shionogi says its compound provides immediate relief faster.
So it takes the same amount of time for the inflammatory cascade to settle down, there is no data included to suggest whether the mortality, morbidity, or hospitalization rate is affected at all. There is also no talk about cost.
As inhibitory as the FDA is about things, I can tell you I would never write a script without all of that data. The blurb that has you excited is just a marketing blurb made to get people excited. It offers almost nothing of scientific value.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:10 pm to I B Freeman
I kinda see why the FDA heavily regulates these types of medications. When these strains morph and become immune to certain treatments, you could potentially have a pandemic on your hands.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:16 pm to I B Freeman
Don't know why youre singling out the FDA when the jap regulating body isn't even approving it till March - after or near the end of flu season - and that's with a fast-tracked approval.
Granted, at least they'd probably have it by the 2018-2019 flu season, although I don't expect this stuff to be cheap.
Also, any discussion about this is naught without the actual studies. Talking about new drug approvals without an analysis of the studies is folly.
Granted, at least they'd probably have it by the 2018-2019 flu season, although I don't expect this stuff to be cheap.
Also, any discussion about this is naught without the actual studies. Talking about new drug approvals without an analysis of the studies is folly.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:13 am to I B Freeman
I listened to an interesting podcast about a German drug company that was trying to get a “morning sickness” drug approved here and the FDA wouldn’t allow it. Turns out is was causing horrible birth defects in Germany but they didn’t know. Can’t recall the drug name off hand. At any rate I think if you are going to have a system here where the FDA is supposed to be credible then you have to let them “do their thing”.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:49 am to I B Freeman
Not many people died from this bad flu anyway.
65 kids
Patience grasshopper.
Show us the trial data.
65 kids
Patience grasshopper.
Show us the trial data.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:41 am to I B Freeman
This thread:
Doc: This article fails to include any peer-reviewed or published scientific data that discusses the drug's affect on mortality, morbidity, or hospitalization rate. With the health of my patients in mind, we are going to need this data before I'm willing to push for access to this drug.
IBFreeman: So you're saying you'd rather have people die from the flu rather than getting the treatment they need?
Doc:
Doc: This article fails to include any peer-reviewed or published scientific data that discusses the drug's affect on mortality, morbidity, or hospitalization rate. With the health of my patients in mind, we are going to need this data before I'm willing to push for access to this drug.
IBFreeman: So you're saying you'd rather have people die from the flu rather than getting the treatment they need?
Doc:
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