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FDA regulation endangering flu victims in the USA--people dying while FDA stands in way

Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:15 am
A drug that will kill the flu virus rampaging the world will be available in Japan in March. It will not allowed for sale in the USA until next year at the earliest.

How many US citizens that this bureaucracy claims to protect will die while the Japanese manufacturer jumps through the FDA hoops?

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As Americans suffer through the worst influenza outbreak in almost a decade, a Japanese drugmaker says it has developed a pill that can kill the virus within a day. But even if the experimental drug lives up to the claim, it likely won’t be available in the U.S. until next year at the earliest.

A late-stage trial on Japanese and American flu patients found that for the people who took the Shionogi 4507 -3.04% & Co. compound, the median time taken to wipe out the virus was 24 hours. That is much quicker than any other flu drug on the market, including Roche AG’s RHHBY -0.07% Tamiflu, which the trial showed took three times longer to achieve the same result. Quickly killing the virus could reduce its contagious effects, Shionogi said.

Also, Shionogi’s experimental drug requires only a single dose, while patients need to take two doses of Tamiflu a day, for five days.

Both Shionogi’s compound and Tamiflu take roughly the same amount of time to entirely contain flu symptoms, but Shionogi says its compound provides immediate relief faster.

Scientists at the Japanese company leveraged their work on a blockbuster anti-HIV drug to create the compound, which works differently from existing flu medicines. It blocks the flu virus from hijacking human cellular machinery, Chief Executive Isao Teshirogi said. Switzerland’s Roche has acquired the international license to distribute Shionogi’s experimental drug.

Flu Fighter

A Japanese company says it can prevent the flu virus from hijacking human cells.

“The data that we’ve seen looks very promising,” said Martin Howell Friede, who leads the World Health Organization’s advisory on vaccines, including for influenza. “This could be a breakthrough in the way that we treat influenza.”

Shionogi said Japan’s drug regulator is fast-tracking its approval and could approve it for use in Japan as early as March. The regulator declined to comment. Roche and Shionogi say they will apply for U.S. approval this summer and Shionogi doesn’t expect a decision until next year.


Why, you might ask, would the government treat us so badly??

Hint

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Other players including Johnson & Johnson , AstraZeneca PLC and a startup backed by Merck & Co. are testing new compounds to treat influenza A, the most common flu strain.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:17 am to
quote:

A drug that will kill the flu virus rampaging the world will be available in Japan in March. It will not allowed for sale in the USA until next year at the earliest.


You don't kill a virus, baw. Didn't read after beginning with nonsense.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45858 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:19 am to
What is it about the word, 'experimental' that you don't understand?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:22 am to
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How many US citizens that this bureaucracy claims to protect will die while the Japanese manufacturer jumps through the FDA hoops?


So if they find the drug has after effects 6 months later that causes blindness, idiots like you will scream that the FDA let us down.

frick man, not every single thing these agencies do are bad! If someone walked up to you with a pill from Japan and asked you to take it at your own risk, would you?

But I do understand their WELL deserved bad reputation for being a red tape nightmare.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21307 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:00 am to
I do not know about the OPs story, but I can tell you the FDA is a corrupt, bribe taking organization.

Big Pharma own them and many drugs that can saves lives never make it out.

Not conspiracy, just fact.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19312 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:01 am to
But some televangelist went on record saying we have a duck season and a deer season but not a flu season, and we don't need to get flu shots.

Of course her church caused a huge measles outbreak a few years back due to their beliefs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261735 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:05 am to
Government regulations are more about protecting markets than protecting consumers.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:50 am to
How do you feel about the FDA's approval of eteplirsen?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53128 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:19 pm to
Trump should shut down the fda. It's a crying shame that they make drugs for people with self inflicted diseases like AIDS but deny us innocent hangover sufferers medical treatment
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16780 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:34 pm to
Gotta prevent that Zombie apocalypse. Let the Japanese unleash the T-Virus on their population. We'll watch.

And I got that zombie apocalypse insurance anyhoo. So I'm good.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:46 pm to
So, pharma companies that spend billions lobbying to the US have been able to steal their formula and are working on their version to be approved by FDA? Wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15014 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Both Shionogi’s compound and Tamiflu take roughly the same amount of time to entirely contain flu symptoms, but Shionogi says its compound provides immediate relief faster.


So it takes the same amount of time for the inflammatory cascade to settle down, there is no data included to suggest whether the mortality, morbidity, or hospitalization rate is affected at all. There is also no talk about cost.

As inhibitory as the FDA is about things, I can tell you I would never write a script without all of that data. The blurb that has you excited is just a marketing blurb made to get people excited. It offers almost nothing of scientific value.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 4:10 pm to
I kinda see why the FDA heavily regulates these types of medications. When these strains morph and become immune to certain treatments, you could potentially have a pandemic on your hands.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:16 pm to
Don't know why youre singling out the FDA when the jap regulating body isn't even approving it till March - after or near the end of flu season - and that's with a fast-tracked approval.

Granted, at least they'd probably have it by the 2018-2019 flu season, although I don't expect this stuff to be cheap.


Also, any discussion about this is naught without the actual studies. Talking about new drug approvals without an analysis of the studies is folly.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29997 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:13 am to
I listened to an interesting podcast about a German drug company that was trying to get a “morning sickness” drug approved here and the FDA wouldn’t allow it. Turns out is was causing horrible birth defects in Germany but they didn’t know. Can’t recall the drug name off hand. At any rate I think if you are going to have a system here where the FDA is supposed to be credible then you have to let them “do their thing”.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 9:49 am to
Not many people died from this bad flu anyway.
65 kids


Patience grasshopper.

Show us the trial data.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 10:41 am to
This thread:

Doc: This article fails to include any peer-reviewed or published scientific data that discusses the drug's affect on mortality, morbidity, or hospitalization rate. With the health of my patients in mind, we are going to need this data before I'm willing to push for access to this drug.

IBFreeman: So you're saying you'd rather have people die from the flu rather than getting the treatment they need?

Doc:

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