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When otherwise good movies jump the shark...
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:28 pm
In the Thor thread there was a discussion about using comedy in comic book films and I was trying to think of examples where the directors went too far and jarred you out of the movie.
Two of mine:
I can take Ewoks and just about anything presented in the Star Wars Universe but when Chewbacca gave the Tarzan yell in RotJ that was a low point
As much as I love the LOTR movies - Legolas single handedly taking out the big elephant (oliphant?) was a bit much.
You have a lot of leeway with fantasy but even then you can go too far .... or at least farther than you should. I guess it just depends on the style and tone of the film. The James Bond movies became basically comedies until the reboot with Craig.
Curious if anyone else had similar moments.
Two of mine:
I can take Ewoks and just about anything presented in the Star Wars Universe but when Chewbacca gave the Tarzan yell in RotJ that was a low point
As much as I love the LOTR movies - Legolas single handedly taking out the big elephant (oliphant?) was a bit much.
You have a lot of leeway with fantasy but even then you can go too far .... or at least farther than you should. I guess it just depends on the style and tone of the film. The James Bond movies became basically comedies until the reboot with Craig.
Curious if anyone else had similar moments.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:30 pm to SquatchDawg
Hands down, when Sunshine turns into a slasher flick.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:32 pm to SquatchDawg
Hancock got weird at the end.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:35 pm to SquatchDawg
Most Marvel movies where they have a good story and good character development and then always end in the same CGI heavy fight in the end.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:36 pm to SquatchDawg
i think sometimes the directors get way too focused on the narrow path and forget to step back and look at the whole body of work in an objective way.
i think that is where they get off track and start wondering far off from the story line the film was intended to be about.
like with TFA if they had skipped the giant planet weapon and solo falling off the bridge down a giant tunnel with a reactor at the bottom exactly like the movie before it and the one before it. at some point tweak the story so its not an instant replay just with different actors
i think that is where they get off track and start wondering far off from the story line the film was intended to be about.
like with TFA if they had skipped the giant planet weapon and solo falling off the bridge down a giant tunnel with a reactor at the bottom exactly like the movie before it and the one before it. at some point tweak the story so its not an instant replay just with different actors
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:42 pm to keakar
I get stories and endings sucking ...but I’m thinking of when a single scene or moment is just WAY out of place.
Another was when Ohura did the feather dance to distract the guards in one of the Star Trek movies.
Another was when Ohura did the feather dance to distract the guards in one of the Star Trek movies.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 5:46 pm to SquatchDawg
Movie already sucked but similar to yours.
The Shia tarzan swing with a group of monkeys in Oldieana Jones and the Kingdom of Ancient Aliens.
All around terrible movie, but at least it held true to theme that Speilberg was going for, 50's sci-fi...until that point.
The Shia tarzan swing with a group of monkeys in Oldieana Jones and the Kingdom of Ancient Aliens.
All around terrible movie, but at least it held true to theme that Speilberg was going for, 50's sci-fi...until that point.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:00 pm to SquatchDawg
I think the ending of Fury completely ruins it. A regiment of elite SS troops can’t take down a crippled tank and it’s crew of 5. bullshite
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:00 pm to SquatchDawg
The shower scene in Schindler's list was tasteless, emotionally manipulative, and wholly unnecessary. That scene could have been removed and it wouldn't have affected the story one bit.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:15 pm to Frac the world
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I think the ending of Fury completely ruins it. A regiment of elite SS troops can’t take down a crippled tank and it’s crew of 5. bullshite
Did you miss the part where they took down the crew of 5 except that 1 guy who hid at the end???....
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:43 pm to keakar
well like my earlier reference to TFA where the giant planet weapon and solo falling off the bridge down a giant tunnel with a reactor at the bottom exactly like the movie before it and the one before it.
that movie wasnt bad up until that point where you just think, "oh come on, this is the exact same scripted action as the last two movies" when had they just had solo fall on the ground was good enough and wouldnt have been a cheesy repeated scene, same with the death planet, there was no need for it and a simple extra large imperial cruiser would serve the same purpose. especially since they only had a handful of ships to fight it.
and the same cheesy design flaw of lets create a fully exposed self destruct thingy that a few ships can come blow it up and destroy everything
no need for much creative thinking, just have something new and different then a repeat of the last 3 movies as though its the same script with just different words and actors.
i really didnt like TLJ at all but at least it did try to NOT follow the same exact script of action as all the other movies.
with TLJ they pretty much killed the entire story line and plot so unless they do all the next movies in the form of a time before TLJ to fill in the blanks, then i think we see the first of the truly star wars movies bomb big time.
that movie wasnt bad up until that point where you just think, "oh come on, this is the exact same scripted action as the last two movies" when had they just had solo fall on the ground was good enough and wouldnt have been a cheesy repeated scene, same with the death planet, there was no need for it and a simple extra large imperial cruiser would serve the same purpose. especially since they only had a handful of ships to fight it.
and the same cheesy design flaw of lets create a fully exposed self destruct thingy that a few ships can come blow it up and destroy everything
no need for much creative thinking, just have something new and different then a repeat of the last 3 movies as though its the same script with just different words and actors.
i really didnt like TLJ at all but at least it did try to NOT follow the same exact script of action as all the other movies.
with TLJ they pretty much killed the entire story line and plot so unless they do all the next movies in the form of a time before TLJ to fill in the blanks, then i think we see the first of the truly star wars movies bomb big time.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 2/10/18 at 6:56 pm to AMS
If there's one thing to complain about the ending of that movie its the nazi seeing the kid and letting him go.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:42 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
it did get stupid
I've often wondered what a good ending would have meant for that movie
It's 3/4 of a masterpiece
I've often wondered what a good ending would have meant for that movie
It's 3/4 of a masterpiece
Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:11 pm to SquatchDawg
Jamie Lee Curtis sensual dance in True Lies
Posted on 2/10/18 at 9:14 pm to SquatchDawg
I don't know if Ocean's 12 falls under "good", but the Julia Roberts bullshite they pulled ruined the movie for me. Lazy lazy writing.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:12 pm to AMS
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Did you miss the part where they took down the crew of 5 except that 1 guy who hid at the end???....
I’m talking about the fact that it took so long. They had a couple cases of panzerfausts, they used two of them...
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:17 pm to SquatchDawg
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As much as I love the LOTR movies - Legolas single handedly taking out the big elephant (oliphant?) was a bit much.
You have a lot of leeway with fantasy but even then you can go too far .... or at least farther than you should. I guess it just depends on the style and tone of the film.
LotR is high fantasy (as opposed to, say, GoT or the like) and that sort of thing is part of the genre. Notice how every single hero except for Boromir (and Boromir was 'fallen' when he betrayed the hobbits) went through orcs like they were Cabbage Patch Kids? They're essentially superhumans because that's how high fantasy works. Just so long as they don't do something impossible for their character -- none of them levitated and shot lightning bolts from their eyes, for instance -- they're going to get a lot of leeway.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:20 pm to SquatchDawg
AI should have ended when they were underwater instead of the Disney ending which finalized 15 minutes later.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 10:31 pm to touchdownjeebus
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AI should have ended when they were underwater instead of the Disney ending which finalized 15 minutes later.
I noted in another post here a while back that the Disney ending is dark as frick. The future robots won't create a fake mother to fool the kid, which would make sense and give the kid as many years he wants with his family. With all that advanced technology at their disposal,there's no way they couldn't have created a robot replica of her. Even worse, they essentially say that people still live on in the universe...unless they're brought back in the way the robots brought the mother back, in which case they're totally gone afterwards. So they completely annihilate what remains of the mother in order to give the kid a single day with her.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:37 am to cgrand
quote:yeah, Fury's ending changed it from being a believable drama to being an action hero movie.
it did get stupid
I've often wondered what a good ending would have meant for that movie
It's 3/4 of a masterpiece
Another botched ending- Wonder Woman. As 'cool' as the Diana-Ares fight was, the movie would have been more powerful had they not put that in. Simply let her kill the German general, realize mankind wasn't going to go start picking flowers, and complete dismantling the base. You could have Ares/Sir Patrick make a comment that reveals his identity later, but never clue Diana in. That would have been a deeper film, and kept a great villain around for a later film. And explained a bit why she had laid low for a century after WW1.
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