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re: "The 10 Most Gerrymandered Districts In America"
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:44 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:44 am to bhtigerfan
I still say this is one of the biggest hinderances to accountability in Congress. They create districts that makes reps unimpeachable. We need to take this process away from the parties and automate it.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:49 am to bhtigerfan
every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 6:49 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:06 am to bhtigerfan
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Gerrymandered Districts
Not very diverse, I thought that was our strength?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:16 am to hsfolk
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and if that happens the Dems are pretty much wiped out in Louisiana statewide
You know the fricking governor is a Democrat, right?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:31 am to bhtigerfan
LA 4 at one time went all the way from Shreveport to New Orleans.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:58 am to mauser
Years ago when they gerrymandered all the districts in order to give more black representation, all it did was screw the blacks.
Before, every elected congressman in the state had to cater to or at least listen to the needs or wants of African Americans.
Now they don't.
The only thing they have going for them is Cedric Richmond who does not have to do anything for them, not that he could, and he sits back and draws his check, shakes down contributions and stays elected because he's a brother.
The rest of the delegation focuses on God, guns, and anti-gay, anti-abortion legislation which fits their base.
Blacks should have been careful of what they wished for. Screwed themselves.
Before, every elected congressman in the state had to cater to or at least listen to the needs or wants of African Americans.
Now they don't.
The only thing they have going for them is Cedric Richmond who does not have to do anything for them, not that he could, and he sits back and draws his check, shakes down contributions and stays elected because he's a brother.
The rest of the delegation focuses on God, guns, and anti-gay, anti-abortion legislation which fits their base.
Blacks should have been careful of what they wished for. Screwed themselves.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:01 am to wutangfinancial
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Just read wiki and they are all examples of how it favored the RNC. Every single one. I'm sure Democrats have never benefited. Ever.
Rofl
But the democrats!
Such a typical response
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:06 am to Machine
Shockingly, when you carve out black districts, you leave white districts.
This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. The democrats carved out all the liberal minority districts, but then got mad that the remaining districts were white and conservative.
They gerrymandered themselves out of power.
This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. The democrats carved out all the liberal minority districts, but then got mad that the remaining districts were white and conservative.
They gerrymandered themselves out of power.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:10 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:LA2 just recently swung into Baton Rouge
This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. The democrats carved out all the liberal minority districts, but then got mad that the remaining districts were white and conservative.
Try again
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:14 am to bencoleman
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every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.
Then your history is very shallow. They are decided by whichever part holds power during redrawing typically done after a census.
2000 repulicans held the most power
2010 democrats
So it switches to benefit that party since democrats held power last time it was redrawn.
but if you go back before 2010 they were in favor of republicans. That's why the midterm elections this year matters big time.
But I'm sure you did absolutely zero research on this before you posted because you are a sheep that has your marching orders and talking points all ready decided for you
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:20 am to Machine
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LA2 just recently swung into Baton Rouge
Try again
It's obviously not 100 percent, as all districts are in flux and have changing demographics, etc.
But logically, when you carve out X, you leave behind Y. Otherwise there would be no reason to carve at all. The same holds true in Republican gerrymandered districts, although there are much less of them. You make a district with a bunch of suburban whites, you leave a liberal black district behind.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:44 am to bhtigerfan
I wouldn't label MD-6 as gerrymandered. It may be odd-looking but Western Maryland is squeezed in between Pennsylvania and Virginia and the district covers the whole of the area.
Now the Florida ones are something else. Especially that Florida has a state constitutional amendment requiring compact districts.
Now the Florida ones are something else. Especially that Florida has a state constitutional amendment requiring compact districts.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:11 am to FreeState
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The only thing they have going for them is Cedric Richmond who does not have to do anything for them, not that he could, and he sits back and draws his check, shakes down contributions and stays elected because he's a brother.
This is how you get morons like Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Fredrica Wilson, and Hank Johnson.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am to bencoleman
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every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.
Look at states all over the country where statewide elections are a close split Dem vs. Rep but their house delegation is overwhelmingly Republican and you'll see that gerrymandering is obviously not to benefit democrats.
Look at Pennsylvania. Trump won the state by 50,000 votes but 13 of the 18 house seats are Republicans. That's what gerrymandering can do for you.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:13 am to Ace Midnight
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and if that happens the Dems are pretty much wiped out in Louisiana statewide
You know the fricking governor is a Democrat, right?
you know i said pretty much, right? i didn't say they were all going to be out of office
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:15 am to bhtigerfan
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Surprisingly, all 10 of these districts are currrently represented by a Democrat.
That's not surprising at all. The goal was to concentrate the Dem votes into certain districts to dilute their influence over the whole.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:16 am to bhtigerfan
It's not on the list, but Alabama's 7th Congressional District is pretty strange with the way it reaches up into Birmingham, while the 6th District covers the rest of Jefferson County.
Of course, there are the obvious racial and political reasons that this was done, and I doubt either party would be eager to change it.
Of course, there are the obvious racial and political reasons that this was done, and I doubt either party would be eager to change it.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:18 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations.
This was very much intended, and Democrats only need blame Black Congressional Leadership. Republicans and Black Democrats in the 1980's and early 1990's, especially in the South, came to a tacit agreement to draw minority-majority districts to ensure black representation. What this did was group the most loyal Democrats into one or two districts, thus making every other district overwhelmingly white, ensuring Republican majorities. SC has one Congressional Democrat in Jim Clyburn, who is black. At one point, 17 or 18 of SC's 46 counties were in his district, which is about 77% black. This all but guarantees the districts that border Clyburn's will go Republican.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:20 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to bhtigerfan
Those are fascinating - whatever side you're on (if you're on one).
Gentrification will further impact those weird lines going forward.
We need to go to grids --> top left to bottom right, you know the same way that we read...and quit categorizing people like this. Maybe then, they can campaign/vote on issues and principles instead of demographics.
Gentrification will further impact those weird lines going forward.
We need to go to grids --> top left to bottom right, you know the same way that we read...and quit categorizing people like this. Maybe then, they can campaign/vote on issues and principles instead of demographics.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:02 am to SwatMitchell
Every state should just adopt California's system of setting districts. 14 out of California's US House districts are represented by a Republican, which is around 25%. I think that's about as close to a fair representation of a state's political makeup as you'll see, though it is skewed a few points in Dems favor, it's not that egregious.
They do theirs every few years(I think it's every 4 years) and it is done by an independent body with equal R and D representation.
They do theirs every few years(I think it's every 4 years) and it is done by an independent body with equal R and D representation.
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