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re: "The 10 Most Gerrymandered Districts In America"

Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:44 am to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:44 am to
I still say this is one of the biggest hinderances to accountability in Congress. They create districts that makes reps unimpeachable. We need to take this process away from the parties and automate it.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:49 am to
every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.
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Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:06 am to
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Gerrymandered Districts



Not very diverse, I thought that was our strength?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:16 am to
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and if that happens the Dems are pretty much wiped out in Louisiana statewide


You know the fricking governor is a Democrat, right?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:31 am to
LA 4 at one time went all the way from Shreveport to New Orleans.

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Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:58 am to
Years ago when they gerrymandered all the districts in order to give more black representation, all it did was screw the blacks.

Before, every elected congressman in the state had to cater to or at least listen to the needs or wants of African Americans.

Now they don't.

The only thing they have going for them is Cedric Richmond who does not have to do anything for them, not that he could, and he sits back and draws his check, shakes down contributions and stays elected because he's a brother.

The rest of the delegation focuses on God, guns, and anti-gay, anti-abortion legislation which fits their base.

Blacks should have been careful of what they wished for. Screwed themselves.
Posted by Machine
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:01 am to
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Just read wiki and they are all examples of how it favored the RNC. Every single one. I'm sure Democrats have never benefited. Ever.


Rofl

But the democrats!

Such a typical response
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26942 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:06 am to
Shockingly, when you carve out black districts, you leave white districts.

This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. The democrats carved out all the liberal minority districts, but then got mad that the remaining districts were white and conservative.

They gerrymandered themselves out of power.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:10 am to
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This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. The democrats carved out all the liberal minority districts, but then got mad that the remaining districts were white and conservative.
LA2 just recently swung into Baton Rouge

Try again
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:14 am to
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every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.


Then your history is very shallow. They are decided by whichever part holds power during redrawing typically done after a census.

2000 repulicans held the most power
2010 democrats

So it switches to benefit that party since democrats held power last time it was redrawn.

but if you go back before 2010 they were in favor of republicans. That's why the midterm elections this year matters big time.

But I'm sure you did absolutely zero research on this before you posted because you are a sheep that has your marching orders and talking points all ready decided for you
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:20 am to
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LA2 just recently swung into Baton Rouge

Try again



It's obviously not 100 percent, as all districts are in flux and have changing demographics, etc.

But logically, when you carve out X, you leave behind Y. Otherwise there would be no reason to carve at all. The same holds true in Republican gerrymandered districts, although there are much less of them. You make a district with a bunch of suburban whites, you leave a liberal black district behind.
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:44 am to
I wouldn't label MD-6 as gerrymandered. It may be odd-looking but Western Maryland is squeezed in between Pennsylvania and Virginia and the district covers the whole of the area.

Now the Florida ones are something else. Especially that Florida has a state constitutional amendment requiring compact districts.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:11 am to
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The only thing they have going for them is Cedric Richmond who does not have to do anything for them, not that he could, and he sits back and draws his check, shakes down contributions and stays elected because he's a brother.



This is how you get morons like Shelia Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Fredrica Wilson, and Hank Johnson.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by Haughton99
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am to
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every gerrymandered district I've ever seen was to benefit a democrat.



Look at states all over the country where statewide elections are a close split Dem vs. Rep but their house delegation is overwhelmingly Republican and you'll see that gerrymandering is obviously not to benefit democrats.

Look at Pennsylvania. Trump won the state by 50,000 votes but 13 of the 18 house seats are Republicans. That's what gerrymandering can do for you.


Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18578 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:13 am to
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and if that happens the Dems are pretty much wiped out in Louisiana statewide


You know the fricking governor is a Democrat, right?



you know i said pretty much, right? i didn't say they were all going to be out of office
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:15 am to
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Surprisingly, all 10 of these districts are currrently represented by a Democrat.



That's not surprising at all. The goal was to concentrate the Dem votes into certain districts to dilute their influence over the whole.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42952 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:16 am to
It's not on the list, but Alabama's 7th Congressional District is pretty strange with the way it reaches up into Birmingham, while the 6th District covers the rest of Jefferson County.

Of course, there are the obvious racial and political reasons that this was done, and I doubt either party would be eager to change it.



This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36240 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:18 am to
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This is one of those "law of unintended consequences" situations. 

This was very much intended, and Democrats only need blame Black Congressional Leadership. Republicans and Black Democrats in the 1980's and early 1990's, especially in the South, came to a tacit agreement to draw minority-majority districts to ensure black representation. What this did was group the most loyal Democrats into one or two districts, thus making every other district overwhelmingly white, ensuring Republican majorities. SC has one Congressional Democrat in Jim Clyburn, who is black. At one point, 17 or 18 of SC's 46 counties were in his district, which is about 77% black. This all but guarantees the districts that border Clyburn's will go Republican.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2314 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to
Those are fascinating - whatever side you're on (if you're on one).

Gentrification will further impact those weird lines going forward.

We need to go to grids --> top left to bottom right, you know the same way that we read...and quit categorizing people like this. Maybe then, they can campaign/vote on issues and principles instead of demographics.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:02 am to
Every state should just adopt California's system of setting districts. 14 out of California's US House districts are represented by a Republican, which is around 25%. I think that's about as close to a fair representation of a state's political makeup as you'll see, though it is skewed a few points in Dems favor, it's not that egregious.

They do theirs every few years(I think it's every 4 years) and it is done by an independent body with equal R and D representation.
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