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re: "The 10 Most Gerrymandered Districts In America"
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:24 am to FreeState
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:24 am to FreeState
In uptown New Orleans, Jefferson Avenue is the dividing line between the districts. If you live on the Audubon Park side, you've got Steve Scalise. If you live on the Garden District side, you've got Cedric Richmond.
Cedric was wearing a kente cloth tie during the SOTU.
Cedric was wearing a kente cloth tie during the SOTU.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:26 am to willymeaux
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Anyone remember the Zorro district in Louisiana?
We used to call it 'The Lightening Bolt' district.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:28 am to The Spleen
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That's not surprising at all. The goal was to concentrate the Dem votes into certain districts to dilute their influence over the whole.
You mean fewer here right? It's no secret that a lot of the states where GOP has control of the state legislature has redrawn the map to look like the far right scenario in the image below...
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:31 am to The Spleen
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The Spleen
Agree. Whoever is in power is going to try to consolidate more be it D or R. If we applied logical thinking and scientific methods to the process of redistricting, I think we'd all be a lot better off.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:52 am to atlgamecockman
Extreme political gerrymandering by state legislatures, primarily in the South, is a direct consequence of the "one person, one vote" rulings by the Supreme Court in the 1960's.
Prior to those rulings, the upper body of most state legislatures in the Deep South was composed of 1 Senator per county. Now, because of the "one person, one vote" doctrine, Senators represent an equal number of people, which often requires them to represent bits and pieces of multiple counties to achieve population distribution.
If the old method returned and each county got 1 senator, almost half of SC's Senate would be composed of Black Democrats, as there are numerous minority-majority counties in the Orangeburg area, the Lower Savannah River area and the Pee Dee. The prospect of jamming through redistricting that benefited Republicans would be much more difficult in the old system, ironic as it may be.
Prior to those rulings, the upper body of most state legislatures in the Deep South was composed of 1 Senator per county. Now, because of the "one person, one vote" doctrine, Senators represent an equal number of people, which often requires them to represent bits and pieces of multiple counties to achieve population distribution.
If the old method returned and each county got 1 senator, almost half of SC's Senate would be composed of Black Democrats, as there are numerous minority-majority counties in the Orangeburg area, the Lower Savannah River area and the Pee Dee. The prospect of jamming through redistricting that benefited Republicans would be much more difficult in the old system, ironic as it may be.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:55 am to bhtigerfan
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:24 am to LordSaintly
That image should be disgusting to every American.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:46 am to atlgamecockman
That graphic is disingenuous to the way redistricting works in the real world. Census redistricting data doesn’t use party. Districs are drawn mainly using race and race by voting age population.
Nobody goes into a redraw saying well Louisiana is 44% Blue, 30% Red and 26% Purple. Therefore that should result in 3 Democrat districts, 2 GOP districts and 1 toss up districts.
The graphic associates party registration with party ideology which isn’t guaranteed to always be the same. It’s essentialy saying all Southern white Dems should always be represented by a Democrat. Here in Louisiana where a plurality of voters are registered Dem and are only represented by one statewide Dem, it’s obvious that graphic isn’t the most logical plan.
Nobody goes into a redraw saying well Louisiana is 44% Blue, 30% Red and 26% Purple. Therefore that should result in 3 Democrat districts, 2 GOP districts and 1 toss up districts.
The graphic associates party registration with party ideology which isn’t guaranteed to always be the same. It’s essentialy saying all Southern white Dems should always be represented by a Democrat. Here in Louisiana where a plurality of voters are registered Dem and are only represented by one statewide Dem, it’s obvious that graphic isn’t the most logical plan.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:55 am to swamie
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Census redistricting data doesn’t use party.
Census data may not, but that's actually exactly what a handful of state legislatures have been accused of doing. NC, PA, WI to name a few.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:09 pm to The Spleen
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Census data may not,
Yeah the data doesn't tell you what party people are in, but as I said the people in control of the redistricting belong to one party, and they will try to advance the interests of that party by drawing lines unfairly.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:30 pm to atlgamecockman
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It's no secret that a lot of the states where GOP has control of the state legislature has redrawn the map to look like the far right scenario in the image below...
Meh. When all black voters in a Southern state have to be concentrated in 1 or 2 districts to "guarantee" minority representation (which just reinforces the horrific notion that a black constituent cannot be represented adequately by a white representative, but what about the white voters trapped in these inanely drawn districts?), then you get situations like the one on the right FAR more than someone trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shite.
IMHO, as always, of course.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:32 pm to LordSaintly
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lordguill
They were hunting your people down like runaway slaves to draw that district, LG.
ETA: [brakes screech on car] "Hey? That's a fricking Monte Carlo in the driveway. Knock on that door."
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:59 pm to bhtigerfan
and florida has 4 of the top ten
well i guess they are winning at something
well i guess they are winning at something
Posted on 2/8/18 at 1:45 pm to swamie
The polarization of federal politics is a direct result of gerrymandering.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 1:58 pm to Ace Midnight
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They were hunting your people down like runaway slaves to draw that district, LG.
Yeah it seems like it. I'm laughing so I don't cry.
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ETA: [brakes screech on car] "Hey? That's a fricking Monte Carlo in the driveway. Knock on that door."
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:17 pm to Wednesday
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The polarization of federal politics is a direct result of gerrymandering.
You can certainly argue that. Districts densely drawn to heavily favor a particular party gives less incentive for the representative to act in a bipartisan manner or compromise against his districts ideology.
But you can’t ignore the spatial polarization occurring in states between the urban and suburban/rural population.
It’s also not a unique event happening only on the federal level. Even Louisiana politics has become a near mirror image of Congress in the makeup of the House and Senate.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:26 pm to bhtigerfan
I used to live in the Florida 5th. Go Gata was our rep, fuking clown lmfao.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 2:33 pm to LordSaintly
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Yeah it seems like it. I'm laughing so I don't cry.
I got it mixed up - that crazy district in Maryland is actually a White Dem machine seat (Sarbanes's seat in the 1970s, now held by his son). That is an outgrowth of the Maryland 7th which exists solely to give that brilliant orator, genius legislator the Honorable Elijah Cummings a job guaranteed for life or as long as he wants it. It's not nearly as crazily drawn, but it triggers the shape of the 3rd, but THIS is where the hunt for really good soul food was in earest(The Maryland 7th Congressional District):
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:05 pm to mindbreaker
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But I'm sure you did absolutely zero research on this before you posted because you are a sheep that has your marching orders and talking points all ready decided for you
Please feel free to GFY. You obviously can't read. I'll repeat it for you really slow. I said the district's that I've seen that were gerrymandered were to benefit democrats. That's my experience. I'm sorry that reading is so hard for you.
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