The Last Jedi, who hasn’t seen it and won’t

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You’d have to figure Luke was going to have to go so have an epic dual and kill him off?

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That would have made too much sense

I’d be interested to hear spoilers and plot points that were good.

What happens?

I finally saw it yesterday and the loudest complaints, the SJW stuff, seem to be the least relevant. If I were to edit about 20-30 seconds out of the movie that would seem to cut out 80% of the biggest complaints I've seen.

That's not to say it's a great movie. I have 2 major gripes with these movies. First, they are so derivative of the originals. So many scenes seem like call backs to the originals. I really was hoping for new stories in the Star Wars universe but that's not what we've gotten. So far Rogue One is the best and most original of these new movies.

Second, Finn, who is presented as and gets the screen time of a major character seems pretty unnecessary. I guess that's some of the SJW/diversity complaints and you can't really edit Finn completely out of the movie, but he really seems kind of pointless.

I believe this will end up on NetFlix sometime this year like Rogue One did. I'd wait for that to watch it. If you're a Star Wars fan I think it's worth your time, just to see what all the fuss is about, but it's probably not worth your money.

I got bored with that one and clicked on another video linked to your review - from that one:


"Episode VII: The Last Snowflake

The Patriarchy reigns Having decimated the peaceful Matriarchy, Dearth Smeagol now deploys his merciless shitposters to seize cultural control of the galaxy.

Only Princess Leia's band of white knights and soyboys stand against peace and prosperity, certain that a man will swoop in and save feminism from its own incompetence. But the Matriarchy has been exposed. As the Patriarchy speeds toward the rebel base, the soyboys forsake the gender binary and bravely decide to run away... "




Kind of funny, but sad that Star Wars finds itself being used in culture wars instead of just trying to be a more universal form of common cultural ideals and storytelling.

Also noticed this summary of the times Mark Hamill warned people his character was no longer Luke Skywalker: LINK That one just makes you kinda sad. People making the movie knew it was being hijacked and still couldn't stop it from happening.

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What’s the major plot points? Can you post the big bullet points.

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SPOILERS

- Rebel attack against The First Order, they destroy a dreadnaught but lose their bombing fleet in the process. Leia demotes Poe because she ordered him not to engage in the costly attack.

- Rey finds Luke on a planet where original Jedi temples are. Luke is a shell of his former self and doesn't want to teach Rey because he can't get over his failure with Kylo Ren.

- The First Order uses some new, previously unavailable technology to track the rebel ships that attacked them through hyperspace. The rebels are able to stay just out of range of the First Order guns, but they only have 18 hours of fuel to keep it up. This starts Finn's unnecessary subplot with an asian chick. Because with just 18 hours it's feasible to go to a Casino planet somewhere else, convince a hacker to help hack them onto the First Order's lead ship and turn off the tracker so they can jump to light speed and get away. While on the Casino planet the Asian chick makes a short 10-15 second speech railing against rich people. This silly subplot + diversity for the sake of diversity + getting preachy = lots of middle aged white males that grew up with Star Wars and are tired of hearing how they are what's wrong with the world got triggered. Sorry this bullet point got a little side tracked, but this is what's triggering so many.

- Rey and Kylo have some connection through the force, they keep telepathically talking to each other and start a long distance relationship.

- Luke finally starts to teach Rey a few things but she's a natural unlike Luke. This seems to trigger a lot of people too that have some vision of Luke as a stalwart hero. They act like it's some GirlPower thing but I believe they are forgetting that Luke was a whiny bitch that didn't want to work in the first 2 movies. "But I was going to go to Tosche Station" when Uncle Owen needed him to work on the farm and "It's too big, I can't do it" when trying to lift his XWing in Degobah.

- Rey leaves in the middle of her training (call back to Empire and Luke with Yoda) because she has a vision that she can turn Kylo Ren

- Finn and the Asian chick manage to get a hacker and get back to sneak on the lead First Order ship.

- Rey gets onto the same ship to be taken prisoner and taken to Snoke's throne room with Kylo and it's pretty much a repeat of the Luke/Vader/Emperor scene from Return of the Jedi with a light saber battle with Snoke's guards thrown in for good measure.

- The rebels make it to a nearby former base to hide. Luke comes back to help. This part is pretty cool with great visuals.

- Happy ending with the rebellion reborn

A). Is Rey and Kylo related, that’s his sister right?
Who killed Snoke Rey or Kylo?

B). Meh so filler story.

C). So Luke just dies, like how? Did Kylo end him ala obi wan kenobi ?

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Luke finally starts to teach Rey a few things but she's a natural unlike Luke.

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lol

I don't understand why Luke essentially turning into a hybrid of Yoda and Obi Wan means they hate the character.

I get why Hammill didn't like it though b/c he wanted to be the epic version of him from the EU books.

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I guess I’m in the minority as I enjoyed it.

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Im as big of a SW guy as their is, and I highly recommend seeing it a 2nd time.


First time i overwhelmingly agreed with everyone that it wasnt very good, but took my mom the second time and with no expectations it was really a fun movie

Its far from perfect(Lauren Dern is awful, casino scene was worthless, Chinese girl and Finn are pointless), but its not as bad as people are making it out