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For anyone who thinks "government shutdowns" are a recent phenomenon, it's not...

Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:53 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:53 pm
There were FIVE federal goverment shutdowns during Jimmy Carter's four years as President.

Three of those shutdowns happened in one year, 1977, for a total of 28 days.

The 1978 shutdown lasted 18 days.

And the Democrat Party controlled both houses of congress all 4 years that Carter was in office.

This, too, shall pass.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:54 pm to
I don’t think anyone thinks that.
And it’s always annoying when politicians don’t do the job(s) they were elected to do.
Same as it ever was.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19568 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 7:49 pm to
From memory Clinton had at least one.

In Carter’s case I can see him pissing off his own party enough to have multiple shutdowns.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 7:56 pm to
If it means Congress getting off their arse and actually passing legislation instead of waiting on pissed off presidents to use EOs to do everything then I'm good with it.

Sometime, you gotta get a little shite on your shoes.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:23 pm to
LINK

Jimmy Carter’s attorney general set up the current guidelines for a government shut down.

It’s not accurate to equate Jimmy Carter’s shutdowns to later shut downs. The current procedure we have in place was instated AFTER jimmy carters 5 shut downs.

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As Jimmy Carter’s attorney general, Civiletti was asked for a legal opinion parsing out what exactly the federal bureaucracy is supposed to do when Congress doesn’t pass a budget by deadline.

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The “legal authority for continued operations either exists or it does not,” he writes. And to those who argue that federal agency operations ought to carry on even without appropriated funds because Congress doesn’t mean for the government to shutdown, he responded thusly: “Faithful execution of the laws cannot rest on mere speculation that Congress does not want the Executive branch to carry out Congress’ unambiguous mandates.”
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:48 am to
I'm bumping this thread for Rex who is trying to lie his way through the current government shutdown claiming it's the first time in history a government shutdown has happened when one party controls the White House and has a majority in both houses of congress.

You're wrong, Rexie Poo.
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:56 am to
The incidences you cite under Carter were not shutdowns. No government functions were shut down and no government workers were sent home nor denied pay.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40479 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:11 am to
Government likes shutdowns cause they all get a bunch of paid days off, at our expense of course.
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