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Have you seen "All the way" featuring LBJ in 1964? (HBO)
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:38 pm
Good flick...
if you have seen it, would you say it's an accurate illustration of LBJ's real character and how events transpired in getting civil rights passed?
He comes off pretty tough...
passionate, played hard ball, even with his own party. He seemed to really care about the country,creating change and making history.
He also wasn't shy to play two sides at times to protect his chances to get elected. And he wasn't afraid to tell people what he thought straight to their face. Cursed alot but had a soft side, that convicted him. Felt the whole world was against him. (sound familiar)?
The flick also showed how he handled Hoover, pretty much just told Hoover what to do with out telling him directly what to do, but Hoover clearly followed orders from the President when he really wanted something done....and skipped right over the pledge of loyalty conversation. LOL
If you have not seen it, worth an evening to watch it
if you have seen it, would you say it's an accurate illustration of LBJ's real character and how events transpired in getting civil rights passed?
He comes off pretty tough...
passionate, played hard ball, even with his own party. He seemed to really care about the country,creating change and making history.
He also wasn't shy to play two sides at times to protect his chances to get elected. And he wasn't afraid to tell people what he thought straight to their face. Cursed alot but had a soft side, that convicted him. Felt the whole world was against him. (sound familiar)?
The flick also showed how he handled Hoover, pretty much just told Hoover what to do with out telling him directly what to do, but Hoover clearly followed orders from the President when he really wanted something done....and skipped right over the pledge of loyalty conversation. LOL
If you have not seen it, worth an evening to watch it
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 7:41 pm
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:39 pm to ApexTiger
Thanks for the recommendation!
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:40 pm to ApexTiger
i know de way
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:44 pm to ApexTiger
The white people in DC were ultimately more responsible for civil rights gains than MLK because they actually had the power to change the system.
Of course, PC drivel teaches that civil rights just sprang from Marty’s womanizing head.
Of course, PC drivel teaches that civil rights just sprang from Marty’s womanizing head.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:45 pm to ApexTiger
He was a piece of shite who destroyed the black nuclear family, he was also a murderer.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:49 pm to ApexTiger
My wife's grandfather was his room mate in college. I figure his definition of his "real character" is about as accurate as it gets.
Example, when an author came to see him once about writing a book about LBJ; he told the guy "I ain't saying shite until that bastard is dead."
Example, when an author came to see him once about writing a book about LBJ; he told the guy "I ain't saying shite until that bastard is dead."
Posted on 1/15/18 at 8:16 pm to bamarep
Wow interesting, my grandfather was under Alan Shepard in WW2, he said he was a real prick.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:29 pm to ApexTiger
Bunghole....
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:30 pm to Strannix
My first wife's grandfather was MLK's bodyguard before he was big time.
He has some interesting stories too.
He has some interesting stories too.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:39 pm to ApexTiger
All I know at best is that my mom born in Texas hated the guy.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:41 pm to goatmilker
I watched it with my dad who was alive during his presidency, he said that Cranston did a hell of a job. He thought it was very accurate.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:42 pm to bamarep
My cousin invented the snuggie
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:44 pm to ApexTiger
I might watch it but I despised the man.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:47 pm to el Gaucho
Tell em thanks for my snuggie
It's coming in handy right now
It's coming in handy right now
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:50 pm to ApexTiger
There’s really no way to judge it’s accuracy behind the screenwriting, but most of the points seem to be confirmed by others comments about him.
He was a legislative genius, AND knew how to play ball. Not many of those anymore. He truly did care for the country; I’d guess it had to do with his upbringing and how he became a teacher before politics.
It does bring to light the MLK tapes. Pretty crazy most Americans didn’t know that stuff.
One of the greatest presidents ever on the domestic front. Got a substantial sympathy time from JFK, but knew how to handle the legislative parts.
Unions had a lot more to do with it than just strong arming Humphrey, but it’s pretty close on most things.
He was a legislative genius, AND knew how to play ball. Not many of those anymore. He truly did care for the country; I’d guess it had to do with his upbringing and how he became a teacher before politics.
It does bring to light the MLK tapes. Pretty crazy most Americans didn’t know that stuff.
One of the greatest presidents ever on the domestic front. Got a substantial sympathy time from JFK, but knew how to handle the legislative parts.
Unions had a lot more to do with it than just strong arming Humphrey, but it’s pretty close on most things.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:54 pm to 5thTiger
quote:Do you mean greatest in the sense of political skills, or greatest in the sense that his policies significantly helped the country?
One of the greatest presidents ever on the domestic front.
Because there isn't consensus, even among liberals, that the great society was a complete success. Many of the social retrogressions happened after those programs were implemented.
Also, he would have lost if he decided to run again. Americans did not like him by end of his term.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bit of both. Medicare/Medicaid, Civil Rights, Voting Rights, sincere investment in education, Thurgood Marshall, good economy.
Those are some major accomplishments, impossible in our current climate.
People didn’t like him, sure, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t successful
Those are some major accomplishments, impossible in our current climate.
People didn’t like him, sure, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t successful
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:11 pm to 5thTiger
I'll give you medicare/medicaid (even though I oppose both), but the CRA and VRA were more products of republican legislators that he happened to sign. They weren't the product of his machinations.
In his first 20 years as a lawmaker, LBJ opposed every civil rights bill. Every one.
In his first 20 years as a lawmaker, LBJ opposed every civil rights bill. Every one.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No it wasn't. It was called for by JFK and passed by a group of Northern Republican and Democrats. This was before the 1964 Political Shift, where both parties had conservative and liberal wings, somewhat regional.
After the shift southern conservative democrats began the shift to the Republican party which was cemented by the Southern Strategy of Nixon.
After the shift southern conservative democrats began the shift to the Republican party which was cemented by the Southern Strategy of Nixon.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:55 am to Strannix
quote:
He was a piece of shite who destroyed the black nuclear family, he was also a murderer.
Bingo.
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