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re: If Drew Brees plays two more seasons he’ll lead the NFL all time in pass yds, TDs, comp%
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:28 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:28 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Drew Brees had only 1 defense ranked inside the top 10 (Brady has had 11..........).
I’m sure you will find that when his defenses were better,
That was 2013 when he had the #4 scoring defense
That year, he did this
68.6%-----5,162yds------39tds----12ints-----104.7rating
Try again, Bubba
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:30 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:If Brady played in Nola, he would still be awesome, but he wouldnt have the rings. He wouldnt with our defenses.
Not everything can be quantified statistically. Brady has been the straw that stirs the drink in New England for a long time and they've done it without great receiving talent at times as well.
Why people cant see that is beyond me
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:30 am to lsupride87
Post every year. One year proves nothing.
No coincidence that his td and yards are down this year with a somewhat solid D for the first time in a long time. There will be a clear correlation here.
No coincidence that his td and yards are down this year with a somewhat solid D for the first time in a long time. There will be a clear correlation here.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:32 am to lsupride87
quote:
Why people cant see that is beyond me
I think people do understand that but Brady took advantage of his opportunities and lead the Patriots to 7 Super Bowls, playing a lot of really great football in those wins. That's going to be heavily valued. Surely you must understand that just as you surely must understand that not everything a QB brings to the table is quantifiable statistically.
And again do you think Drew Brees would have been as successful in Miami as he has in New Orleans?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:32 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Here you go
Post every year. One year proves nothing
Here are his defense rankings, and here are his stats
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:33 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
But he's not the GOAT. He's in the Steve Young tier. That's not a slam btw.
He's not the GOAT. But he's definitely above Steve Young.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Yes.
And again do you think Drew Brees would have been as successful in Miami as he has in New Orleans?
I frick around about Brady, but I think Manning, Brady, Rodgers, and Brees got to a level their skills could travel anywhere
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:41 am to lsupride87
quote:
I frick around about Brady, but I think Manning, Brady, Rodgers, and Brees got to a level their skills could travel anywhere
Well okay, just be consistent with it. You cant say in one breath Brady would be way worse in NOLA and in the next say Brees would be just as good in Miami.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:43 am to Draconian Sanctions
You can't say that Brees would be better with the greatest NFL HC of all time? 
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:43 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:I never once said that, you simply cant grasp what I am saying
You cant say in one breath Brady would be way worse in NOLA
Brady would be just as good in NOLA, everything he controls would be the same (tds, yards, ints, rating) However, he wouldnt have the rings due to his defenses being terrible, as compared to top 10 year in and out in NE
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:44 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Manning's value is aided in part by his mastery of X's and O's
There's genuinely nothing Manning does better than Brees, outside of having a famous last name.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:51 am to theunknownknight
Wherein people's Saintsessed butthurt blinds them to statistics.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
quote:
Brady would be just as good in NOLA, everything he controls would be the same (tds, yards, ints, rating) However, he wouldnt have the rings due to his defenses being terrible, as compared to top 10 year in and out in NE
Maybe not 5 rings but I bet you Brady cashes in 2011 in NOLA at the very least.
Do I think Brees would have 7 Super Bowl trips in NE? No. But more than the 1 he has, sure.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Maybe not 5 rings but I bet you Brady cashes in 2011 in NOLA at the very least.
How?
In the game we lost to san fran, drew did this
64%------464 yards-----4 tds-------2int(last int being a throw away hail mary)
Our defense gave up 36 points.......
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:54 am to lsupride87
quote:
How?
managing the game better
you really dont understand that not everything is about stats, do you?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Top tier is Brady, Montana, Unitas
Tier 2 is Elway, Marino, Peyton, Staubach, Graham, and Layne
Tier 3 is Drew, Steve, Tarkenton, Kelly, Van Brocklin, and maybe a few others.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
managing the game better
Ok. I am sure Brady would have managed the game better than 64%, 460 yards, and 4tds Our defense sucked that game.
quote:You really dont realize how it is a team sport and you defense is a huge part of it do you
you really dont understand that not everything is about stats, do you?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:57 am to theunknownknight
When Tom Brady tore his ACL in week 1 in 2008 he was replaced by Matt Cassall and the Patriots went 11-5. The following year when Brady came back the Pats went 10-6.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 10:57 am to theunknownknight
If he wins another Super Bowl, I’d put him at top 5 all time when he retired with all the records.
Brady
Manning
Elway
Montana
Brees
Not in any order
Brady
Manning
Elway
Montana
Brees
Not in any order
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:So you're calculating Brees' ability based on team accomplishments. Well that's absolutely fair. It's obvious that Bradshaw is 4x better than Drew.
If Drew leads the Saints to another SB this year I'd bump him up a few spots into that 7-10 range.
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