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re: Black women are the most educated group
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:39 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:39 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Depends on the surgery performed, really.
Whats a "success." Very generic, bland term that means nothing.
quote:Surgery. . .so surgeons
Only pertains to a small subset of physicians.
quote:One data subset among many. Who wants a guy who has never performed the surgery you need done? Don't be daft, son.
Let me give you the name of 50 and I want you to report back with their surgical times, tourniquet times, etc. Good luck.
quote:When I needed a kidney procedure, I started asking my doctor, other doctors in the group, and anyone who ever held a stethoscope. . .and basically everyone said Redfield Bryan was the best in the country, at that time.
Doctors really don't "review" other doctors honestly. Just a fact.
quote:They are all data subsets weighted differently with the most consistent being the most useful.
Of all the examples, this is the only one that even kind of makes sense.
quote:Depends on what you are looking for. Do you need a vertical threat? Then yeah, 40 times, broad jump, verticals, and shuttles are a good place to start.
Like the 40 yd dash, right?
Are you looking for a Red zone threat? Height, hand size, vertical, strength, body use and technique
Different standards for different positions . . .race is unlikely to be used, though.
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:41 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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So by their criteria, if a black woman gets a gender studies degree and can't get a job she's more educated than a white male HS graduate who makes $80k as a welder?
Good lord. Give them a stat and back it up with a study and immediately it’s disputed with hypotheticals.
This is as bad as when LSU misses out on a 5-star recruit and people fall all over themselves giving JD Moore examples of walk-ons.
Yes. There are some genius welders out there and some people who leave college I’ll-prepared.
What are the stats again on earnings with and without a degree?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:42 pm to creppeln
And you're going to sit there and deny that's the cause of this statistic? You libs really don't like facts, logic and reality.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:47 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Can she read blueprints? Do a mathematical takeoff?
Attach the term 'educated to useless fields all you want but if you can't produce you're really no educated in the real world.
Not everyone needs to fit pipe or weld to make a living birdseed.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:48 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
quote:Here's some stats.
Good lord. Give them a stat and back it up with a study and immediately it’s disputed with hypotheticals.
Black English benchmark scores for 10 years have never risen above 40% success. They trail whites by about 35 points and Asians by about 40. So. Yeah. It's totally plausible that this group then goes on to become the "most educated" group in society.
Let's look at math.
Blacks have not risen about 15%. They trail whites again. This time by 35 points and Asians by a full 50 points. Yup. This is the group!!!!
And before you say, "but we're talking about black women", I'm going to point out that black men could be getting all fricking ZEROS and the female score that generated the black average would STILL trail whites and Asians by over 10 points.
Get this stupid shite outta here.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:52 pm to ShortyRob
I'll add.
Over the last 10 years, blacks have gone from meeting all 4 ACT benchmarks at a rate of 3% in 2007 all the way to SIX PERCENT in 2016!! WOO HOO
Whites? 35%
Asians? 46%
Yeah. TOTALLY plausible that this means that thereafter, blacks kicked everyone's arse!!
Over the last 10 years, blacks have gone from meeting all 4 ACT benchmarks at a rate of 3% in 2007 all the way to SIX PERCENT in 2016!! WOO HOO
Whites? 35%
Asians? 46%
Yeah. TOTALLY plausible that this means that thereafter, blacks kicked everyone's arse!!
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:52 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Why would it?
Because a population that represent 87.5% of Nobel Prize winners looking to address a grievance would wreck your shite.
But of course you are aware of that fact.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:52 pm to Roaad
quote:
Depends on the surgery performed, really.
Umm obviously
quote:
Surgery. . .so surgeons
Umm no. Mortality measures only pertains to a small subset of surgeons. You think you are going to distinguish between orthopaedic, plastic, ENT, etc surgeons based on mortality rates?
quote:
One data subset among many. Who wants a guy who has never performed the surgery you need done? Don't be daft, son.
You're not making any sense.
quote:
Depends on what you are looking for. Do you need a vertical threat? Then yeah, 40 times, broad jump, verticals, and shuttles are a good place to start.
Are you looking for a Red zone threat? Height, hand size, vertical, strength, body use and technique
Different standards for different positions . . .race is unlikely to be used, though.
You are proving my point. "Best" is very difficult to quantify objectively. And race could be a compounding variable related to something else of interest. Just food for thought....
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:54 pm to Amadeo
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Because a population that represent 87.5% of Nobel Prize winners looking to address a grievance would wreck your shite.
Why would my shite get wrecked? Because I'm black? That doesn't seem right....
And I think I can take care of myself.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:55 pm to ShortyRob
Finally. Average black ACT score in 2016. 17
Whites? 22
Asians? 23
I should add.
On HS benchmarks, blacks score worse than EVERY group in English to INCLUDE children of 1st generation Hispanic immigrants.
I frankly don't even know how that's fricking possible.
Whites? 22
Asians? 23
I should add.
On HS benchmarks, blacks score worse than EVERY group in English to INCLUDE children of 1st generation Hispanic immigrants.
I frankly don't even know how that's fricking possible.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:57 pm to ShortyRob
You’d think we’d be investing more in black schools that lack the resources to educate properly
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:57 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I frankly don't even know how that's fricking possible.
Lol, google "mumble rap."
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
OMMG
Honest question, and I challenge you to give a "Yes" or "No" answer.
Since you brought up sports earlier, I just want to ask you this; Do you consider LeBron James to be intelligent?
Yes or no.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:58 pm to ShortyRob
“By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).”
So if 10% of one group attends college...and 6% of another group attends college...even if only half of the 10% group graduates then the 6% group would have to graduate at an 83% clip to match the share of the population...
I’m not even saying the article is correct in its assertion because an associates is definitely not the same as a graduate degree and the numbers aren’t really given.
I was just pointing out how quickly the board was to cry “gender studies degrees” and “welders are so smart and wealthy!”
So if 10% of one group attends college...and 6% of another group attends college...even if only half of the 10% group graduates then the 6% group would have to graduate at an 83% clip to match the share of the population...
I’m not even saying the article is correct in its assertion because an associates is definitely not the same as a graduate degree and the numbers aren’t really given.
I was just pointing out how quickly the board was to cry “gender studies degrees” and “welders are so smart and wealthy!”
Posted on 1/31/19 at 10:59 pm to 337Tiger19
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You’d think we’d be investing more in black schools that lack the resources to educate properly
Some of the highest per pupil expenditures are in some of the worst majority AA school districts.
See Washington DC.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:01 pm to umop_apisdn
quote:
Increased percentage of college attendance does not mean most educated. Let's see the IQ scores before someone starts shaking thier head.
To be fair, IQ score and education level aren’t exactly one in the same. You can be somewhat uneducated and have a high IQ.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:02 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
quote:"In college" counts everything from the worst community college in America to Princeton and Yale.
“By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).”
I'm unimpressed to say the least with such a general stat.
quote:When I was in Va. Beach, my friend was an Army recruiter who ROUTINELY had GRADUATES of Norfolk State fail to meet Army standards on the ASVAB.
So if 10% of one group attends college...and 6% of another group attends college...even if only half of the 10% group graduates then the 6% group would have to graduate at an 83% clip to match the share of the population..
In fact, graduates of NSU had a worse record on the ASVAB in his recruiting station than the local top tier HS.
CLEARLY, the HS graduates were more educated unless the definition of the word has zero to do with accumulating actual knowledge.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:03 pm to Roaad
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Nobody wants the best hispanic doctor doing their heart surgery, right?
Depends on who you ask. It matters to someone when it comes to being able to effectively communicate with patients. You can be as great as a surgeon as you want, but if the patient can't communicate with you enough to indicate relevant past medical history, your outcome might not be as good.
Also, minority patients who are treated by doctors who look like them often have better outcomes and lower mortality rates. So why it might not matter to you, it matters to many. You can be a great surgeon and have a terrible experience due to this.
And arguably among two people with similar characteristics/ test scores, yes adding diversity is a plus. Especially if the student is well-rounded. Don't sit there and act like they are comparing students who got a 17 on the ACT to students who got a 30.
Everyone learns more when they are in a diverse setting. not just racially, but socioeconomically and ethnically diverse as well.
Actually in general, regardless of race, the high B students came out of college better with better or as good of jobs than a lot of the A students because they were well rounded. They interviewed way better.
And it doesn't matter if everyone is taking the same test if they aren't all exposed to the same material prior to the test! I could learn something for a test, but if I'm not given the info to begin with how can I study for it ? It doesn't mean I'm unable to learn the information just because it wasn't received. And it would be different if standardized tests actually reflected what is learned in hs or if it were a standardized final exam showing basic content that must be learned for a subject-- that's not what these tests are.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:03 pm to KCT
quote:
Since you brought up sports earlier, I just want to ask you this; Do you consider LeBron James to be intelligent?
Yes or no.
When it comes to basketball, hes a genius. Without questions.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:05 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:
Since you brought up sports earlier, I just want to ask you this; Do you consider LeBron James to be intelligent?
Yes or no.
When it comes to basketball, hes a genius. Without questions.
I knew you wouldn't give me a straight answer.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 11:06 pm
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