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re: Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:47 pm to
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Uh huh.



I mean it is what it is.


The CMB essentially confirms the Big Bang theory. In the late 1940s Alpher and Herman reasoned that if there was a big bang, the expansion of the universe would have stretched and cooled the high-energy radiation of the very early universe into the microwave region of the electromagnetic spectrum, and down to a temperature of about 5 K. They were slightly off with their estimate, but they had exactly the right idea. They predicted the CMB. It took another 15 years for Penzias and Wilson to stumble into discovering that the microwave background was actually there.[47]

The CMB gives a snapshot of the universe when, according to standard cosmology, the temperature dropped enough to allow electrons and protons to form hydrogen atoms, thereby making the universe nearly transparent to radiation because light was no longer being scattered off free electrons. When it originated some 380,000 years after the Big Bang—this time is generally known as the "time of last scattering" or the period of recombination or decoupling—the temperature of the universe was about 3000 K. This corresponds to an energy of about 0.26 eV[48], which is much less than the 13.6 eV ionization energy of hydrogen.[49]
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:49 pm to
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Hadron Collider.

The only banging going on in the Hadron Collider was the taxpayers getting fricked.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:49 pm to
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Despite his best intentions, God is a bit of an idiot, as far as deities go. So we must praise him and love him, but most of all we must be patient with him. He's still figuring a lot of things out.



Ahhh. The old, "Orgeron" maxim, I see.

Hmmm.


Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:49 pm to
yes
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7037 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:51 pm to
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Religious people: we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? A book.



Umm...The "Big Bang" Theory was not first proposed by Hubble, but by Fr. Georges Lemaître, a CATHOLIC PRIEST from Belgium.

Oh the irony, does it burn much?



Georges Lemaitre

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Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître Associate RAS (French: 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian Catholic Priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the Catholic University of Leuven. He proposed the theory of the expansion of the universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble. He was the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article. Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe, which he called his "hypothesis of the primeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6382 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:52 pm to
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I say this as someone with my Bachelor's in Physics and Astronomy who has personally reproduced several of the key experiments in lab to back this up

Nickname: foshizzle

That cracks me up for some reason.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:52 pm to
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I didn't realized anyone observed the Big Bang.


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We’ve got a picture of it

Cosmic microwave background




Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29886 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:52 pm to
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Yeah, you should look into how that picture was put together.



Using this?


Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe

Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:53 pm to
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Science people: we think we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? Scientific observation

What scientist observed how the universe was formed?
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: we know how the universe formed
even more idiotic statement. "religious" folk live by faith; therefore, we inherently don't claim to "know".
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:23 pm to
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What scientist observed how the universe was formed?


I think there was supposed to be a "have" and an "about" in there, if so quite a lot actually. When you look out into space everything will have what’s called a redshift to it due to the objects moving away from you stretching the light waves toward the red end of the spectrum. Given that everything is moving further and further apart, we can assume everything was closer and closer together the further back you go in time. This fits nicely into prevailing models (Einstein and such).
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:41 pm to
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DavidTheGnome


You seem open to hearing alternative ideas.
This is for you: More Big Problems for Big Bang(11:57)

And I'll add this one:
Dr. Pierre-Marie Robitaille: The Cosmic Microwave Background(47:16)



This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 12:28 am
Posted by mailman
Houston
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:09 am to
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Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:11 am to
I think were in a blackhole , multiverses are real.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:26 am to
Ah, a belief based on faith.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:31 am to
To be honest, I don't think about it. How this Universe was created has no bearing on my life. I exist. That's all that matters.

One day I won't.

That's okay too.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:32 am to
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Which book? I haven't finished writing any of them yet unless you include my children's books, and yes those fit that bill, intentionally.

I'm currently reading one of my best friend's latest mystery novel. You should check it out. Written In Blood, by Layton Greene.

I am also wading through Chuck Taylor's A Secular Age. He's one of those guys who understands how to question instead of clinging to dogma out of fear. Next up is Alvin Plantinga.

I'll let you know how that goes.

I find this stuff absolutely fascinating. And it's particularly interesting to me in the context of truth and meaning--Qoheleth (and Sartre) say: if your origin is meaningless and your destiny is meaningless then admit your life is too. Expand, contract, die.



Post reminded me of this guy:

Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
4387 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:38 am to
Is this the religion where I give you money and good things will happen to me?

If so, where can I send you my checkbook?
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
651 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:59 am to
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You seem open to hearing alternative ideas. This is for you: More Big Problems for Big Bang(11:57)


This guy is a well known shyster/fruitcake on the same playing field as the Flat Earth theory hucksters. It seems there are always enough bird-brained, gullible people who will buy just anything at all.,..as long as it's in a book..

This video is so phony in its presentation of "facts" that it is only second in credible arguement to Peeweee Herman's "I know you are but what am I?" response to any and all scientific evidence.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17414 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:07 am to
I’m sure I’m in the minority here but I’d take the other short blonde in Big Bang Theory over Kaley Cuoco.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
46595 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:40 am to
Age of the Universe: 13.2 billion years

Amount of time observing distant background radiation: 30 years.

So...we've studied 0.0000000002273 of the life of the Universe and think we've got it all figured out, right?
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