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re: Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?

Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:14 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:14 am to
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No the big pickup line was the origin of the universe.
That's bad. How long were you saving that for?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:16 am to
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dense singularity


My questions.

1. What was this dense singularity made from?

2. Where did the matter that made up the dense singularity originate?

3. what process caused whatever matter constituted the dense singularity to form the dense singularity?

4. How could something this dense also be hot? As has already been stated, for something to be hot, there must be movement. How can something infinitly dense also have movement to create heat?

5. If the dense singularity was indeed hot, what caused it to heat up?

6. And finally, what force caused this dense singularity to explode? And where did this force originate? What triggered this force to interact with the dense singularity and cause it to explode?


Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:23 am to
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My questions.

1. What was this dense singularity made from?

2. Where did the matter that made up the dense singularity originate?

3. what process caused whatever matter constituted the dense singularity to form the dense singularity?

4. How could something this dense also be hot? As has already been stated, for something to be hot, there must be movement. How can something infinitly dense also have movement to create heat?

5. If the dense singularity was indeed hot, what caused it to heat up?

6. And finally, what force caused this dense singularity to explode? And where did this force originate? What triggered this force to interact with the dense singularity and cause it to explode?



All very relevant and obvious questions to ask, and may I add one more?


What force caused all of this matter to work into such symmetry that so perfectly worked together to form a planet we are on that sustains some 8.7 million species, one of which is actually using technology it invented to contemplate its own genesis?

That’s quite an explosion of matter we cannot even explain the origin of.

Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:23 am to
Universe is flat.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:33 am to
Funny how this thread was just blowing and going until some serious questions about the Big Bang theory were brought up. Pretty quiet now.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:35 am to
It’s a pretty good theory, but we can’t be sure of it until we are actually capable of traveling in space (more than to the moon and sending out unmanned flights)
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:47 am to
We can only guess about what we can observe, but how did those physically quantifiable things come into being in the first place? I don't think the human mind is capable of really comprehending this.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:54 am to
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But the possibility of a being who exists outside of the dimensions of time and space that we occupy and know them is so bizarre and foreign to you that you'd immediately mock and ridicule anyone who believes it.

The Christian God and all of the entire history of science can coexist. Isn't it possible some outer dimensional being that we cannot in any way comprehend started the motion of our universe?



Anything is possible, but the thing is there's nothing to support it and nothing had led us to that being the case.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:55 am to
Wow. It’s been 30 minutes since I first posed my questions. You’d think as sure of themselves as some in here were that at least one of them would have answers. I’ll keep waiting. Maybe they’re busy making sure their fedora is on straight.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:55 am to
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there's nothing to support it


Excuse me? Did you not see?



God is real, he is great and he is dim.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:58 am to
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Anything is possible, but the thing is there's nothing to support it and nothing had led us to that being the case


Well, it does take faith, but it sounds like you are saying there is no evidence of a creator. I beg to differ. The evidence is the creation itself, and the imprint of the creator is on his/her/its creation.

Posted by danilo
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:01 am to
Sure but really DGAF. I got bigger problems to deal with
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:06 am to
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Well, it does take faith, but it sounds like you are saying there is no evidence of a creator. I beg to differ. The evidence is the creation itself, and the imprint of the creator is on his/her/its creation.


Exactly. If you want to see evidence of our Creator just look at something like the intricate workings of the human inner ear or the cardiovascular system or really any of the various systems that all have to work together for life to exist. To suppose these things are the result of an infinite series of random mutations is akin to thinking you could throw piles of junk over a cliff and expecting them to randomly fall into place on the way down making a space shuttle.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:13 am to
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Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?


Sure.

God said it and BANG!, it happened.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:15 am to
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there is no evidence of a creator.


There isn't any. None whatsoever.

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The evidence is the creation itself, and the imprint of the creator is on his/her/its creation.


That is so illogical I don't even know where to begin. You really don't see how illogical that is?

The fact that everything exists is proof only of that. Anything else is you inferring what you want to believe. Anyone can infer anything into that and it has just as much evidence as you do for your magic...ie, none.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:15 am to
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Exactly. If you want to see evidence of our Creator just look at something like the intricate workings of the human inner ear or the cardiovascular system or really any of the various systems that all have to work together for life to exist. To suppose these things are the result of an infinite series of random mutations is akin to thinking you could throw piles of junk over a cliff and expecting them to randomly fall into place on the way down making a space shuttle.


Wow.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:18 am to
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Fun Bunch


Can’t refute anything we’ve said so you just attack it.



where where were you about an hour ago when I posted my list of questions? Since you’re so smart and logical, let’s see your answers. I’ll wait.

ETA: the fact you can’t answer my questions and instead just downvote my post tells me all I need know a out you.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:24 am to
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Wow. It’s been 30 minutes since I first posed my questions. You’d think as sure of themselves as some in here were that at least one of them would have answers. I’ll keep waiting. Maybe they’re busy making sure their fedora is on straight.



To be fair your questions are at time 0 and before and from what I know modern physics breaks down at that point. We can backtrack all the way to a very, very small fraction of a second after the Big Bang but before that it's all speculation.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21947 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:25 am to
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That is so illogical I don't even know where to begin. You really don't see how illogical that is?

The fact that everything exists is proof only of that. Anything else is you inferring what you want to believe. Anyone can infer anything into that and it has just as much evidence as you do for your magic...ie, none.


If only someone could think this through. If only there were generations of the best and brightest thinkers that humanity could muster who would take the time to consider such weighty topics as where did we come from, why are we here, is there anything knowable about our existence and our human condition? If only our universities could create fields of study about these topics, and maybe call them philosophy and metaphysics and theology.

But alas, Fun Bunch has declared it all so very illogical. No need to consider it further.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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74569 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 9:28 am to
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To be fair your questions are at time 0 and before and from what I know modern physics breaks down at that point. We can backtrack all the way to a very, very small fraction of a second after the Big Bang but before that it's all speculation.


So what you’re saying, is that to accept the Big Bang theory you have to have faith in things that you have absolutely zero proof existed.

But doesn’t that fly in the face of scientific process? Science has no faith in anything, only those things that can be observed and thus studied, right? That’s sicence. If your theory requires faith in things you can’t even prove exist then it’s not really a theory is it? It’s a religion at that point.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 9:57 am
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