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re: PFF Rookie of the Year Rankings (Final) (4 Saints finish top 9)

Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:52 am to
Posted by 25 Point Lead
Member since Nov 2017
575 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:


The way I look at it...

((Ryan x 2) + (Newton x 2) + (Winston x 2)) > (Brady x2)


Lattimore played against Brady, shutdown Cooks

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:52 am to
Newton have no weapons at all in the passing game. And Winston was so hurt he didn’t even play the whole game iirc. They have played lots of common opponents TBT.
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
1938 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:53 am to
Good point.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96792 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

I'm pretty sure Lattimore faced better QBs this year then that of White. I'm a LSU fan but no way I trade White for Lattimore from what I have seen so far.

This is you being a homer

White has faced

Brady x2
Brees
Cam
Ryan
Winston
Rivers
Cutler
Smith
Carr
Brisset
Mccown x2
Miami backup
Simeon
Dalton


Lattimore has faced

Ryan x2
Winston x 2
Brady
Tyrod
Petty
Goff
Cutler
Hundley
trubisky
Bradford
Stafford
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12516 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Disappointing finish for our rookies


How was Kamara's finish considered disappointing? He had 138 yards from scrimmage, a receiving TD, and a return TD. Unless we are discussing his lack of eye popping yards the last 3 games.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by 25 Point Lead
Member since Nov 2017
575 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Newton have no weapons at all in the passing game. And Winston was so hurt he didn’t even play the whole game iirc. They have played lots of common opponents TBT.


Lattimore never played against Newton, but White did

Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Thanks for fricking up everyone’s vibe. Have a downvote


Huh? 4 in the top 9 is pretty historic. What vibe is this hurting?

I have been posting this thread every Wednesday if you have not been keeping up.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27884 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:54 am to
casual nfl fan
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32609 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:55 am to
Keep your bullshite trolling on the msb.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27884 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:56 am to
quote:

How was Kamara's finish considered disappointing? He had 138 yards from scrimmage, a receiving TD, and a return TD.

I was referring to the rankings, since both Kamara and Lattimore lost out to Hunt and White, respectively.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:57 am to
Kamara is OROY
White is DROY

White leads the whole nfl in fourth qtr takeaways. That’s the clincher.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40352 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:57 am to
quote:

I was referring to the rankings, since both Kamara and Lattimore lost out to Hunt and White, respectively.


Kareem Hunt shouldn't be in the discussion at all.

Kamara did more with less and didn't disappear in the middle of the season.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Kamara is OROY
White is DROY

White leads the whole nfl in fourth qtr takeaways. That’s the clincher.


I actually agree with this.

I still prefer Latt as a player. But White played way more snaps. That matters.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40352 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:58 am to
quote:

White leads the whole nfl in fourth qtr takeaways. That’s the clincher.


Tre has less ints on more snaps.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27884 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:59 am to
Don't tell me. Tell pro football focus.
Posted by ReneeBVP
Member since Dec 2016
240 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:00 pm to
Yes exactly and you chose to point out Lattimores “poor” finish instead
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:00 pm to
Context. Lattimore has an int land in his back after getting beat by a practice squad player who then dropped the ball.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40352 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Context. Lattimore has an int land in his back after getting beat by a practice squad player who then dropped the ball.


An INT is an INT.

Do we really want to go down that road and start making half INTS like we do sacks already?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27884 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:02 pm to
He had a poor finish relative to the rest of his season. You don't have to put it in quotes like that's a subjective view.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:02 pm to
That’s why you don’t go off just INTs
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