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PFF Rookie of the Year Rankings (Final) (4 Saints finish top 9)
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:30 am
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2. Marshon Lattimore, CB, New Orleans Saints
PFF Grade: 89.9
PFF Elite Stat: Opposing quarterbacks had just a 45.3 passer rating when targeting Lattimore’s coverage this year, the third-best mark among corners.
Lattimore finishes the year ranked seventh among cornerbacks in terms of overall grade after he posted game grades of at least 70.0 in eight of 13 games this season – passing the 80.0 mark in seven of them. The first corner selected on draft day was one of just 12 cornerbacks this season to not surrender a touchdown while among that group, the 451 snaps he spent in coverage were the second-most. Lattimore allowed a first down or touchdown on just 27.9 percent of the targets into his coverage this season, the 19th-best rate among corners. Like White, he also excelled at disrupting passes, with his 22.1 forced incompletion percentage ranking 15th and also like White, is a key reason as to why the Saints are hosting a playoff game this season.
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4. Alvin Kamara, RB, New Orleans Saints
PFF Grade: 90.6
PFF Elite Stat: Kamara led all running backs with a 108.5 elusive rating in 2017.
Kamara just gets edged out by Hunt for PFFs Offensive Rookie of the Year honors but that’s by no means a slight to him, the battle between him and Hunt was as close as Monday night’s Rose Bowl and there are plenty of things you can point to if you wanted to make the case for Kamara. The rookie out of Tennessee ranks second among running backs in terms of overall grade, ninth in rushing grade and second in receiving grade – he was a true force with the ball in his hands this season, no matter how it got there. Kamara picked up a first down or touchdown on 34.2 percent of his carries this season – a rate that led all running backs – and he ranked second among backs with a stuff rate (a stuff is a run that goes for zero or fewer yards) of just 14.2 percent. The rookie completely revolutionized New Orleans’ offense once Adrian Peterson had departed and he teamed up with Mark Ingram to give New Orleans arguably the most productive backfield in all of football this season.
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5. Ryan Ramczyk, OT, New Orleans Saints
PFF Grade: 83.5
PFF Elite Stat: Ramczyk ranks 11th among tackles with a 96.6 pass-blocking efficiency rating. The only offensive lineman to even sniff this list all season, Ramczyk didn’t miss a single snap all year and he ranked as the eighth-best tackle in 2017 in terms of overall grade. The rookie out of Wisconsin was a huge reason why Drew Brees faced pressure on just 22.6 percent of his dropbacks this year, the lowest rate among quarterbacks. Ramczyk was one of just seven tackles this season to post grades of at least 80.0 as both a run-blocker and pass-protector and he finished 13 games this season with a grade of at least 70.0.
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9. Marcus Williams, S, New Orleans Saints
PFF Grade: 86.5
PFF Elite Stat: Williams surrendered just 0.13 yards per snap in coverage this season, the third-best rate by a safety. Williams has been a virtual main-stay on the honorable mention section of this race all throughout the season, finally cracking the top-10 in the season’s final update, giving the Saints a 40 percent ownership stake in this list. Williams ends his rookie year ranked 13th among safeties in terms of overall grade and he’s 1-of-15 safeties to have earned marks of at least 80.0 in both coverage and run-defense. Against the run, Williams excelled as a safety net on the back end of New Orleans’ defense, earning a negative grade this year on just 0.6 percent of his run-defense snaps, a rate that leads safeties and is over 500 percent better than the league average. In coverage, he ranks 14th among safeties with a 23.1 forced incompletion percentage.
White finishes on top. Not surprising as Shon had his worst game of the year last week. That blown coverage was a huge hit. Also gave up his first catch in the endzone.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:33 am to Mystery
How the frick is Kamara not #1
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:34 am to hg
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How the frick is Kamara not #1
I am confused by this as well.
Did White get a pro bowl nod?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:34 am to Mystery
So Kamara has a better grade but gets edged out? Makes sense
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:36 am to 50_Tiger
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Did White get a pro bowl nod?
Why does this matter? Have you seen the CBs that are in the AFC?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:37 am to Mystery
It’s going to really suck when White and Hunt win ROTY over Lattimore and Kamara
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:37 am to Mystery
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Why does this matter? Have you seen the CBs that are in the AFC?
Reflection of peers?
Have you seen the CB's that are in the NFC?
Do you see the records of the NFC?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:40 am to 50_Tiger
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Reflection of peers?
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Have you seen the CB's that are in the NFC?
Not really comparable to the AFC group IMO.
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Do you see the records of the NFC?
frick does this matter when grading individual play?
For what it is worth this is what the founder of PFF had to say about the rankings.
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A remarkable season for rookies. I feel there may be two all-time greats come out of this top 10 (Foster, Lattimore) and the Saints draft is tremendous. For now however a #BILLS rookie has set the standard. Congratulations to him on a sensational year:
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:43 am to Mystery
I'm pretty sure Lattimore faced better QBs this year then that of White. I'm a LSU fan but no way I trade White for Lattimore from what I have seen so far.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:45 am to ODP
I would not trade Lattimore either. He is the superior player IMO. Right now and with a higher ceiling.
But as I have stated in almost every one of these weekly threads. The 4 games missed hurt Lattimore.
He had a chance to take it back but he had a bad game against Tampa, there is no doubting that.
But as I have stated in almost every one of these weekly threads. The 4 games missed hurt Lattimore.
He had a chance to take it back but he had a bad game against Tampa, there is no doubting that.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:45 am to Mystery
Disappointing finish for our rookies, but let's not allow that to take away from how fantastic of a post this is. Kudos again, Mystery.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:46 am to ODP
There were worse qbs than hundley and Trubisky ?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:47 am to Mystery
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Not really comparable to the AFC group IMO.
Eh in the NFC you still have PP7, Patrick Robinson (great year) , Richard Sherman (pre-injury), Xavier Rhodes, Tramon Williams, Darius Slay (INT leader), Josh Norman, Marcus Trufant, Trumaine Johnson, etc.
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frick does this matter when grading individual play?
Level of competition. shite records indicate shite teams.
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For what it is worth this is what the founder of PFF had to say about the rankings.
And I think he is a crock of shite for not giving it to Kamara. The clear generational talent out of this draft.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:50 am to Mystery
Thanks for fricking up everyone’s vibe. Have a downvote
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:50 am to Boomshockalocka
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There were worse qbs than hundley and Trubisky ?
The way I look at it...
((Ryan x 2) + (Newton x 2) + (Winston x 2)) > (Brady x2)
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:51 am to Boomshockalocka
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There were worse qbs than hundley and Trubisky ?
Fales, Siemian, and Brisset in the snow are pretty bad
But that is a shitty way to look at it anyways. It evens itself out over the season
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:51 am to Boomshockalocka
Siemian? Fales?
But I think they both played some really good and really bad QBs.
But I think they both played some really good and really bad QBs.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:51 am to ODP
Yeah they got the Jets and Dolphins twice
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:52 am to ODP
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The way I look at it...
((Ryan x 2) + (Newton x 2) + (Winston x 2)) > (Brady x2)
White played Ryan, Newton, Brees, Winston, Bradyx2 actually.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:52 am to Mystery
Kamara and Latt are both going to get hosed on ROY awards. Just watch.
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