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Miss State game cost Canada his job

Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:32 pm
The LSU offense was terrible against Mississippi State and questions about all the motion started. The following week against Syracuse the offense was better, but still struggled.

Then came the Troy game. Orgeron panicked, giving up on the offense three games into the season, even as the players were still learning it. Already fearful for his job after the State blowout loss, Orgeron prematurely gave up on Canada. The rest is history.

Had LSU beat State, Orgeron probably leaves Canada alone as LSU would have been 3-0 going into the Troy game. But LSU had lost in ugly fashion to Miss State and Orgeron simple panicked, abandoning an offense that as it turned out got better each game. It was the State game that really set all this in motion.

That’s my theory and I am sticking to it.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:32 pm to
Lol
Posted by hsgeoboy
Member since Aug 2017
1120 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:33 pm to
Agreed... until we lose to Florida and auburn in underwhelming fashion. Then Canada has a enough reason for O to start meddling
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:34 pm to
Geaux play in the street
Posted by magicman0001
Orange, Texas
Member since Dec 2008
1149 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:52 pm to


This is how you put absurdity in 3 paragraphs. I think the long, drawn-out threads (most of which are laced with opinionated half truths and rhetorical bullshite) you've been starting have gone to your head. You aren't the TD prodigy you think you are. Sometimes it's better to just.. not type anything at all ..and quit while you're just barely behind.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19249 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:55 pm to
I think his inability to raise his work ethic, be a team player and lift his game on the recruiting trail is what did it.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:05 pm to
That's not the story. The story is LSU went 6 and 1 after the Troy game. That's the story.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9131 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:09 pm to
O gets plenty of criticism for meddling, but how could he have not after the first few games' penalties and ineptitude? There was little reason for optimism heading into Troy.
Posted by Harv1790
Member since Jul 2009
2558 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:11 pm to
If I recall, defense was just as bad in that game
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:13 pm to
No
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11193 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

O gets plenty of criticism for meddling, but how could he have not after the first few games' penalties and ineptitude? There was little reason for optimism heading into Troy.


The meddling narrative has taken a life of its own. I believe the extent of the meddling was simplifying the blocking schemes because the line didn't know what the hell they were doing half the time. Guys were pulling when they weren't supposed to, they couldn't pick to twists and stunts and they were missing assignments left and right.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:27 pm to
The defense just gets a pass for that game?
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
3059 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:31 pm to
quote:


O gets plenty of criticism for meddling, but how could he have not after the first few games' penalties and ineptitude


The defense was getting just as many penalties as the offense. How much did O meddle there?
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9131 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:35 pm to
Maybe a bit, maybe Aranda took direction better. Unlikely but still possible
Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8071 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

O gets plenty of criticism for meddling, but how could he have not after the first few games' penalties and ineptitude? There was little reason for optimism heading into Troy.


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Something had to be done. All those illegal formations we're on the OC. The OC is Canada. People complained about the penalties and complain after the head coach did what a head coach should do. The man never said scrap the entire offense. For some strange reason, it was magically fixed after that. Maybe Canada stepped his game up after getting called out.

Many fans were questioning the motions at that point as well since nothing was working on offense. Of course defense had issues when they're on the field all game.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20091 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:51 pm to
I agree with everything the OP has written. IMO, that is how things unfolded and is the single most concerning thing about Ed.

He doesn't have an overarching vision so he doesn't know what kind of offense he wants.

I'm not suggesting we fire Ed. He just needs to mature as a HC.
Posted by yeauxkneauxit
Dallas
Member since Nov 2007
963 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:56 pm to
First year bro. New system. Good grief.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29616 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:56 pm to
If you use that game you have to include Aranda. He gave up 37.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29616 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

For some strange reason, it was magically fixed after that. Maybe Canada stepped his game up after getting called out

Uh.. they scraped it the first half against Troy. Then grosse tete looking dumb on the sideline knew he had to let Canada go. He then called all the plays from that point on. It takes time with any new offense.
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