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Court rules against Oregon bakers in wedding-cake case

Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39510 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:52 pm
quote:

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — An appellate court Thursday upheld a penalty against Oregon bakery owners who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding almost five years ago.

The owners of the since-closed Gresham bakery — Aaron and Melissa Klein — argued that state Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian violated state and federal laws by forcing them to pay emotional-distress damages of $135,000 to the lesbian couple.


quote:

"Today's ruling sends a strong signal that Oregon remains open to all," Avakian said after the 62-page opinion was released Thursday.


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The case began when Rachel Bowman-Cryer went to the suburban Portland bakery with her mother in January 2013. They met with Aaron Klein, who asked for the date of the ceremony and the names of the bride and groom.

When told there was no groom, Klein said he was sorry but the bakery did not make cakes for same-sex weddings. According to documents from the case, Rachel and her mother left the shop, but returned a short time later. As Rachel remained in the car, in tears, her mother went in to speak with Klein.

The mother told Klein she had once thought like him, but her "truth had changed" when she had two gay children. Klein responded by quoting Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer praised the ruling in a statement released through their attorney: "It does not matter how you were born or who you love. All of us are equal under the law and should be treated equally. Oregon will not allow a 'Straight Couples Only' sign to be hung in bakeries or other stores."


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This is a great money making scam. Cry for 15 minutes. Get your mom to come into the store. And then profit $135K for emotional distress.


This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Today's ruling sends a strong signal that Oregon remains open to all,"


Except people who disagree with the accepted liberal viewpoint.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:53 pm to
Such bullshite. Maybe it will make it to the Supreme Court.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:53 pm to
fricking bullshite.

Total fricking bullshite.

If I were queer I wouldn’t want to do business with someone who despised me. Damn attention whore queers
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43193 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:55 pm to
It did go to the Supreme Court.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:55 pm to
I hope the 135k crippled their business and were forced to close. F those bigots.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Today's ruling sends a strong signal that Oregon remains open to all


Unless you have a different viewpoint than us.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84296 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:56 pm to
Ridiculous
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:57 pm to
So gay bakers can refuse to bake cakes, straight bakers have to bake any cake
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:57 pm to
Easy way to pay off the mortgage.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39510 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

I hope the 135k crippled their business and were forced to close. F those bigots.


The business did close.

A small business owner should have the right to refuse business, for whatever reason as they see fit.

The customer(s) then have the same right to either do business or not do business with said small business owner.

These things have a way of working themselves out on their own. And they should not require more government intervention or court rulings.

This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4101 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

emotional-distress damages of $135,000


Back when I was in law school, we were taught that we had to prove our damages.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43193 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:59 pm to
Don’t understand how a lower court make a ruling considered it was just heard in the Supreme Court. I didn’t think the Court made a ruling. LINK
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:59 pm to
Maybe one day we will live in a truly free society.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68334 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:59 pm to
Forcing people to be "open to all" is not being open to all. Idiots
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25478 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:59 pm to
It's amazing that the courts ruled against the baker when at the time he refused service the state of Oregon didn't even officially recognize gay marriage.

Oh well, this opens the door for all kind of bullshite. Since service cannot be denied based on certain demographics I think I'll go find a gay artist and request he paint gays burning in hell and threaten to sue when they gets pissy.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never deny customers service - I like money too much. But setting this precident is so laughably outlandish.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56914 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:00 pm to
the war on christianity continues

hopefully trump removes these judges
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:00 pm to
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and were forced to close.

Thought it said they had closed already?
I'm really happy to be old, this country is going to sh*t.
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18154 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:01 pm to
That's a different case.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25478 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

I hope the 135k crippled their business and were forced to close. F those bigots.



Yep, gotta punish those who don't think the way we do...

/sarcasm
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