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re: Nitrogen in your tires
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:28 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:28 pm to theantiquetiger
N2 is a molecule.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:29 pm to Gaston
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That sounds like stuff I don't want to be around.
Ethylene Oxide is rocket fuel I believe.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:32 pm to Gaston
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N2 is a molecule
I know it's a molecule, but it's considered an element.
It might just be tomato/tomoto
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:38 pm to h0bnail
Nitrogen in street car tires is one of the biggest rip offs and most useless things to come on the automotive scene in the last decade or two It's a complete scam.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:39 pm to Duke
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The advantage to pure nitrogen is you know it's dry.
My air compressor runs through 3 particulate/ moisture filters, as well as a 20’ cooled section of line with two moisture separator drops through a cooler before my hose reel. My air is pretty dry as well.
That regular old air I’m using is ~79% nitrogen. I’ve also heard that the molecules of nitrogen are smaller than the molecules of oxygen, thus, they leak slower. My contention is that since O2 leaks slower than N2, the mixture left in my tires when the pressure gets low is much closer to 100% N2 than before. So the 79% mixture I put in is only dilluting the near 100% mixture to around 90%. Do that a couple times, and I’m pretty close to 100% N2, for free. Unless the N2 guys call bullshite on that, in which case, their whole argument is bullshite.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:41 pm to theantiquetiger
Nitrogen is a element, it is represented by the letter "N" on the periodic table. N2 is a nitrogen molecule, which has two atoms of nitrogen. Because nitrogen gas exists only as N2 molecules in a free state nitrogen gas is referred to as N2.
Or as Jesse said, in Breaking Bad "Yo, Mr. White science!"
Or as Jesse said, in Breaking Bad "Yo, Mr. White science!"
Posted on 12/26/17 at 5:49 pm to theantiquetiger
Would the nitrogen in the tires scam have caught on if the name of the element wasn’t nitrogen? Nitrogen, shortened to “nitro”, just sounds cool and fast. It honestly doesn’t “sound” like the most common element in air, to the common folk. Plus you get the cool green stem caps.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:07 pm to theantiquetiger
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He said N2 is resistant to heat and so it won't expand like air does, so it doesn't wear on the tire.
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I heat up N2 all the time at work with just steam and a portable exchanger. N2 does heat up.
There's a difference between resistant to heating up and not heating up at all.
Anyways I have no idea if N2 is "resistant" to heating up. I just felt like I couldn't move on without pointing that out.
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:11 pm to theantiquetiger
“Look I’m an operator”!!!!
People with real careers laugh at you
People with real careers laugh at you
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:12 pm to Fratigerguy
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My air is pretty dry as well.
Then you've got no reason to go pure N2.
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I’ve also heard that the molecules of nitrogen are smaller than the molecules of oxygen, thus, they leak slower.
It'd be the opposite. Larger molecules will diffuse slower through the solid rubber of the tire. And while yes, N2 is a bit larger than O2, it's pretty much negligible in this case.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:25 pm to Duke
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It'd be the opposite. Larger molecules will diffuse slower through the solid rubber of the tire. And while yes, N2 is a bit larger than O2, it's pretty much negligible in this case.
Yeah...slip on my part. I meant bigger, thus, slower to get through. And I’m not saying I agree with it, only that I’ve heard that excuse used. Well, a couple fill ups and all should be good, right? Lol.
But back to the moisture content to begin with...how much moisture are we really worried about here? And why are we worried about it?
Posted on 12/26/17 at 10:33 pm to PolyPusher86
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People with real careers laugh at you
I laugh right along with them, all the way to the bank with my six figures
Posted on 12/26/17 at 10:40 pm to theantiquetiger
I went to engineering school so I could afford to put only N2 in my tires. Sorry your GED doesn't cut it baw.
Posted on 12/26/17 at 11:28 pm to theantiquetiger
Waste of money. Air is already 78% nitrogen.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 12:52 am to theantiquetiger
Nitrogen in tires+ 3,000 mile oil changes= winning.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:17 am to JackieTreehorn
There's a sucker born every minute.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 3:51 am to theantiquetiger
quote:ok, admins - time for a N2 in tires forum.
Nitrogen in your tires by theantiquetiger
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:01 am to skinny domino
OMG, surely someone in this thread knows why nitrogen is placed in tires.
It isn’t a “scam”.
With all the new cars coming out with TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System), nitrogen placed in the tires keeps the TPMS from telling you your tire is low during cold weather.
That’s it. No scam, no 10th grade science lessons needed.
It isn’t a “scam”.
With all the new cars coming out with TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System), nitrogen placed in the tires keeps the TPMS from telling you your tire is low during cold weather.
That’s it. No scam, no 10th grade science lessons needed.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:09 am to Sayre
I put methane in my tires. Been saving up my farts for the last year. I even got brown caps to go with it.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:17 am to alajones
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With all the new cars coming out with TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System), nitrogen placed in the tires keeps the TPMS from telling you your tire is low during cold weather.
I don’t think you ever PV=nRT
It is 100% a scam. But keep getting you tires filled up for $12 if it makes you feel good.
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