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re: Finding blood

Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:24 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:24 am to
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Did I disrespect the peel from my banana this morning when I threw it on the ground?

While I am far from a bleeding heart, I dont think this is much of a comparison.

Game animals should be found if you have shot them, or at least give it your best effort.

To the point of the thread, I have had a real hard time finding blood the last three deer I have shot. I have to walk the trail for a while to find it. The buck I shot on opening day bled very little, but I hit him perfect.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:37 am to
I shot a doe last year I couldn't find. No blood anywhere ( hard to see at night in wet pine straw) but I know I hit her. She was old and had a white face. Would see her every hunt and saved her for my kids to shoot. Had my 6 yr old in the stand with me and he begged me to shoot her. I did and we couldn't find anything. Never saw that deer again and it makes me sick to think about.

Later that year I shot a doe that ended up dying trying to cross a deer creek. Water was about 4' deep where she was jammed against a log. Temps in the 30s I almost abandoned her there. On the phn with my dad he reminded me that I shot her for meat, and I owe it to her and everyone else to recover her. That fricking water was cold
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
2994 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:45 am to
my last two bowkills did not bleed for the first 15 yards. after that it looked like a massacre.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:53 am to
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want to know why it's "disrespectful" to not look for a deer, that you were trying to kill and eat. Did I disrespect the peel from my banana this morning when I threw it on the ground?


Your banana peel isn’t a suffering animal.

Coyotes and pigs didn’t ask to be here. I’m all for taking them out, but do it humanly.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:55 am to
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Coyotes and pigs didn’t ask to be here. I’m all for taking them out, but do it humanly.


Gotta recover those. They make the best instagram pics with hashtags
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5749 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:11 am to
I’ve killed and been along on 100’s of recoveries. I’ve tracked two bucks that had no exit wound on tracks alone. They were long shots and the bullets energy was slowing down out there.
I stalked and shot a buck freehand at 100 yards with a muzzleloader. No blood. Went back to the stand and killed a doe. Went back to look for the buck. Found his tracks leading back into a cutover. He was ten yards in the cutover with no blood on the ground. With a gun, I always assume a hit.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6864 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:20 am to
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Your banana peel isn’t a suffering animal.



Who determines what suffering is? We aren't necessarily talking about deer that are still alive. This thread has been about finding dead deer or not finding them. I'm not in favor of people killing animals just for the hell of it to let them rot, but stop humanizing them for God's sake. They are on this planet for us to kill and eat. Next thing you know people will catch wounded deer and take them to the vet.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:41 am to
Fourth poster thinks deer are more important than hogs and yotes.

I've been a professional hunter and professional fisherman for most of my life. I'm not a tree hugging PETA ****.. If I or my clients kill something, I try and make sure it's dead and not suffering.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

They are on this planet for us to kill and eat.


that attitude towards wildlife is what caused all of the problems with buffalo, deer, wolves, elk, etc.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6864 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:22 pm to
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that attitude towards wildlife is what caused all of the problems with buffalo, deer, wolves, elk, etc.



So, we shouldn't kill them and eat them? That what you are saying?
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:29 pm to
no, i'm not saying that at all. The general attitude among the buffalo hunters thought that the buffalo were a gift from god to help the west get settled. Many thought they would never be depleted because of that. There were only about a thousand left at one point. Game is a renewable resource but it has to be treated as such, you can't kill indiscriminately because "they were put here for us" and expect them to survive.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56698 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

I've been a professional hunter and professional fisherman for most of my life. I'm not a tree hugging PETA ****.. If I or my clients kill something, I try and make sure it's dead and not suffering.


that's what separates us from serial killers
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6864 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Game is a renewable resource but it has to be treated as such, you can't kill indiscriminately because "they were put here for us" and expect them to survive.


I never said anything about killing indiscriminately. I was simply stating that you and others have made deer out to have feelings which we should respect, as if they were human. They are just deer. They do not possess human mental and emotional capacities. I agree with doing everything you can to recover an animal, but I do it because it's wasteful not to. I don't do it because I'm worried about disrespecting the animal.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
^
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
11000 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:43 pm to
Sounds like a bunch of PETA folk here claiming all bullet shot animals bleed the same. As if a gut shot animal bleeds the same as a lung shot or one with a hole punched through the heart.
Posted by CGTigerfan
I'm on a boat
Member since Jan 2010
336 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 1:48 pm to
I have killed 2 that I couldnt find any sign of me hitting them. Got the dog out and she found them both within 5 minutes of starting a track. The only blood we saw for them both was where we found them. This is why it is important to be able to call your shot (low, high, right, left or on target). Also its just as important to be able to mark the spot you last saw the deer, down to the closest leaf if possible.

If there is no blowout on the ground, then it is also not uncommon for them to start dropping blood for a few yards.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16308 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I have never failed to find blood at the impact point if Its hit


I've seen plenty of times where all you find is hair at impact point. And several times where deer that I thought would have bled like crazy didn't bleed at all.

I shot one last year in the crease behind the front shoulder...penetrated both lungs with 150 grain .270. He only ran about 30 yards, but I never found 1 drop.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 6:02 am to
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PETA folk here


lol. humanely killing animals = peta now?
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7827 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 6:46 am to
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The general attitude among the buffalo hunters thought that the buffalo were a gift from god to help the west get settled. Many thought they would never be depleted because of that. There were only about a thousand left at one point.

Because they wete slaughtered so the injuns couldn't use them. Let's not pretend it was for food. We killed them, took the hides and left the meat to rot.

But on topic, I shot a doe because my daughter wanted to see me shoot a deer. I shot it and saw it jump 10ft in the air. She asked if I got it. I told her yes. 15 minutes later we go and look and not a drop of blood anywhere.

Got a dog to find it. She didn't go but 60 yards but since there was a dog around that needed experience I waited for the dog. No blood except where she lay. Clean pass through using Barnes Tsx. 270wsm at 100yds.the last 4 deer I shot with them I never found blood but the bullet does what it's supposed to.

Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 7:09 am to
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Because they wete slaughtered so the injuns couldn't use them. Let's not pretend it was for food. We killed them, took the hides and left the meat to rot.


that was part of it. another case of thinking that wildlife is there to use and abuse as we see fit.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 7:18 am
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