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re: Micheal Savage going off on trump for raising his taxes in California

Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by lsurapper
Member since Oct 2017
271 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:53 pm to
Is he the one from Boy Meets World or Wonder Years?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26186 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:02 pm to
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My taxes are going up by close to $5,000 and I don't live in high-tax California. I live in low-tax Missouri. Republicans voted to raise my federal income tax bill so they could hand it out to the "middle class". That's Marxism. Republican Marxism.


My advice to you is to seek the nearest safe space on Mizzou's campus and start a protest there.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:10 pm to
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This is nonsense:If you pay $X in taxes, then the federal government changes the tax code so you pay $X + $5,000 in taxes, the federal government raised your tax bill. Period.


Fixed

You have the right idea vis a vis Marxism, but your conclusion is wrong. Keep at it grasshopper, you’ll earn that MAGA hat yet.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
826 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:14 pm to
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Time for you to pay your fair share

I already pay 50% of what I earn in taxes, and you think that's "not fair"? You're a Marxist.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4598 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:14 pm to
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My taxes are going up by close to $5,000 and I don't live in high-tax California. I live in low-tax Missouri


I'd like to the calculation on this.
Posted by biggsc
32.4767389, 35.5697717
Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:15 pm to
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Micheal Savage

Short little pos
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:18 pm to
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I already pay 50% of what I earn in taxes,


So you're going to get a deduction.

Story is falling apart, homie.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:20 pm to
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But people in California love high taxes
The ones making bank probably do. Simplifies "charity" for them. Let the government take their money and delegate it to the needy.
Posted by Tiger70503
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2017
409 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:21 pm to
California has some of the highest state & federal deductions in the country and this has helped them avoid owning their taxes. Now, California gets to own those tax increases. They no longer get to live off the bailout deductions from the state and feds.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22027 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Govt should stay out of our business as much as possible! That means they shouldn't pay you to have more kids! Or Pay you to buy a house! Or Pay you to donate to charity.


That part is true but the rest of your post is nonsense.

A tax break for doing any of those activities is not the government paying you to do anything.

The Government has no money except what it takes from us.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
826 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:41 pm to
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If every tax bracket got a lower rate, and you have low income state taxes. Please explain to me how you federal income taxes are going up.

I'm not being a smartass, I just don't understand how that is possible.


Sure. I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me. I just want people to realize that this tax bill steals money out of my pocket to put into the pockets of others. It's Marxism, plain and simple.

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Estimated 2017 tax bill (current tax code):
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Federal AGI = $248,000
Mortgage interest deduction = $36,338
State Income Tax Deduction = $13,513
Property Tax Deduction = $11,875
Total Deductions = $61,725

Total Exemptions = $12,150

Federal Taxable Income = $174,125

Federal Income Tax = $35,279

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Estimated 2017 tax bill (proposed tax code):
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Federal AGI = $248,000
Mortgage interest deduction = $26,250 (capped)
State Income Tax Deduction = $0 (eliminated)
Property Tax Deduction = $10,000 (capped)
Total Deductions = $36,250

Total Exemptions = $0 (eliminated)

Federal Taxable Income = $211,750

Federal Income Tax = $39,898


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Tax increase = $39,898 - $35,279 = $4,619
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Summary: The rate reduction doesn't make up for the lost deductions, not even close. If we earned significantly more, the rate reductions would have a more significant impact than the lost deductions. If we earned significantly less, we wouldn't have been able to deduct nearly as much in the first place. But my family is in a "sweet spot" where we get raped by this tax bill. Enjoy spending my money.

P.S. We make too much to get the child tax credit under the current tax code, but we can at least claim a personal exemption for the child. Under both new plans, we won't get either.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58062 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:41 pm to
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Micheal Savage going off on trump for raising his taxes in California


I can’t keep up with this shite. Every liberal keeps saying different. First it was “raise our taxes, we can afford it”, now it’s “why’d you raise my taxes??”
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:45 pm to
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Papplesbeast


Looks to me like your gripe is with your local legislators not with the federal government. It's not my fault your state votes in people who bleed you dry
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Enjoy spending my money.


LOL

Dude. Someone making your exact income in my state has a higher federal income tax burden than you used to have. So no offense but Cry Me a River. Your problem is with your State Legislature and your local politicians
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
826 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:53 pm to
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Looks to me like your gripe is with your local legislators not with the federal government. It's not my fault your state votes in people who bleed you dry

Nope, my gripe is with people who say they're going to give me a tax cut, then actually increase my tax bill.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Nope, my gripe is with people who say they're going to give me a tax cut, then actually increase my tax bill.


Your lack of understanding of the Dynamics of the situation is a you problem.

If you're going to complain to the wrong people you're not likely to solve the problem
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40340 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:58 pm to
You are going to have a hard time convincing your fellow proggies that this tax bill is bad with your 248k AGI
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:59 pm to
And where the frick does he live because he list himself as being in Missouri but those tax number is bear no resemblance to what you would have in Missouri
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:04 pm to
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You are going to have a hard time convincing your fellow proggies that this tax bill is bad with your 248k AGI


And he lives in a home over 900k apparently in freaking Missouri

Yeah go ahead. Take that one to the Americans who oppose Trump normally LOL
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
826 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:04 pm to
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You are going to have a hard time convincing your fellow proggies that this tax bill is bad with your 248k AGI

I'm libertarian, not progressive. I know progressives are always coming for my money. It turns out, Republicans are coming for my money, too.

The federal government is stealing more of my money. Period. That's a bad thing, but you think that's a good thing. That makes you a Marxist.
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