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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:29 pm to
Just watched it for the first time. My lord was that disappointing. I'm sure people have already voiced everything I have to say about it so I won't bother. I kept checking my watch because I was just ready for it to be over. Now I can see why they picked JJ to do episode 9. They knew this movie was a disaster and he's the only hope to save this franchise again.
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Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:52 pm to
Thought it was far, far superior to the Force Awakens. Very good movie
Posted by cajunatc
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 3:57 pm to
So C3PO's red arm was another "NOTHING" from TFA?
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:47 pm to
At the end of TFA his arm is no longer red when they are waving Rey off.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Just watched it for the first time. My lord was that disappointing. I'm sure people have already voiced everything I have to say about it so I won't bother. I kept checking my watch because I was just ready for it to be over. Now I can see why they picked JJ to do episode 9. They knew this movie was a disaster and he's the only hope to save this franchise again.




Actually when they fired Collin they offered Rian first then JJ. Rian is getting his own trilogy to do.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:55 pm to
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So C3PO's red arm was another "NOTHING" from TFA?



I mean, this movie takes 15 seconds after TFA.... where did they get the time to do that? It is the most clear example of Rian not giving a single frick.
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 4:56 pm to
Well like I said. He got the gold arm at the end of TFA
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 7:09 pm to
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My lord was that disappointing. I'm sure people have already voiced everything I have to say about it so I won't bother.

i'm kind of in the same boat

it wasn't 100% bad (kylo ren is really interesting) but it's mediocre-bad. so disappointing that i'm not sure i can wrap my head around it all

and this is ignoring the SJW, anti-man, pro-diversity stuff

as a basic movie it wasn't good. it's plot was all over the place. the tone was disjointed (Star Wars isn't a Marvel movie). all of the interesting stuff seems to be that period between the trilogies that is almost barren in this current set of movies (seriously why would anyone follow Leia when she couldn't hold together a post-imperial republic?)
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 7:22 pm to
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all of the interesting stuff seems to be that period between the trilogies that is almost barren in this current set of movies


It seems like the movies would have been better served following Luke Right after ROTJ setting up the new Jedi order, teaching Kylo, etc. the scene alluded to in TLJ where Luke attempts to strike Kylo down would have been infinitely more entertaining than the garbage produced in TFA or TLJ.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 7:35 pm to
HOW DID THE REBELS LOSE?

they don't even talk about this huge upset and bad governance

i mean does the population of the galaxy even want the Rebels to win? they already proved they are weak in power and will just cause another civil war and billions more will die in the process
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 7:50 pm to
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i mean does the population of the galaxy even want the Rebels to win? they already proved they are weak in power and will just cause another civil war and billions more will die in the process


I’ve pointed this out earlier, but this movie is as if the Nazis and Soviets wiped out 99% of their forces in Stalingrad. The rest of the galaxy should just be thinking to themselves “That worked out well.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 7:53 pm to
also can anyone explain to me why we had fake luke fake die only to have real luke real die because of what he did to create fake luke?

Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

HOW DID THE REBELS LOSE?

they don't even talk about this huge upset and bad governance

i mean does the population of the galaxy even want the Rebels to win? they already proved they are weak in power and will just cause another civil war and billions more will die in the process


I think at this point it’s clear the galaxy consensus isn’t in the “rebels” or “resistance” favor. I mean for hell sakes Leia puts out the broken arrow call and no one comes to her aid. The best military mind of the resistance Admiral Akbar was randomly killed with zero explanation. The list goes on...
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:06 pm to
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also can anyone explain to me why we had fake luke fake die only to have real luke real die because of what he did to create fake luke?


I guess they wanted to showcase the power Luke had and to that point no one had shown that level of astral projection before. He should have physically fought Kylo and hell just pulled a fricking Ben Kenobi and that would have made more sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:09 pm to
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He should have physically fought Kylo and hell just pulled a fricking Ben Kenobi and that would have made more sense.

but he basically did do just that

they teased it, but RJ didn't want to pull a TFA and copy ANH, so he did a "Gotcha"...and luke died anyway
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:14 pm to
Im rewatching TFA on HBO... what a load of shite. All this set up, and just nothing. Nothing but loads and loads of shite.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:14 pm to
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but he basically did do just that

they teased it, but RJ didn't want to pull a TFA and copy ANH, so he did a "Gotcha"...and luke died anyway


Yes the end effect was essentially the same, but they did it in a completely over the top way. The beauty of the original trilogy was it’s simplicity in some respects.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:16 pm to
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Im rewatching TFA on HBO... what a load of shite. All this set up, and just nothing. Nothing but loads and loads of shite.


Rian epically fricked this up. JJ must have had his hands tied. The trilogy that Rian is supposed to be doing will be a fricking dumpster fire.
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:16 pm to
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can anyone explain to me why we had fake luke fake die only to have real luke real die because of what he did to create fake luke?



My guess is they're going to take this to the next movie and Luke will be "more powerful than you could possibly imagine" (aka Kenobi in ANH). Now that Luke has become "one with the force," and they established that force ghosts can now physically affect living people with Yoda's lightning to the tree, I expect Luke to be able to physically interact with Kylo as a force ghost. Even though that directly flies in the face of what Kenobi told Luke in the OT ("if you choose to face Vader, you will do it alone; I cannot interfere).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:16 pm to
it's funny how y'all are have the same issues i do

so much of what we have seen is worthless/wasted

OT? Rebel victory means nothing b/c they lose everything shortly after

TFA? Rey's parents, Snoke, etc are all worthless additions
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