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re: Remember in 2012 when websites were banned by your ISP

Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83159 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:23 pm to
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5 years ago cord cutting was just catching on and wasn't a threat to the cable and internet providers. Now it is.

Never mind just realized who I was responding to you are one of the biggest sheep on this board.


This is actually the best argument I've heard. Wow. That changes my mind, honestly. Makes sense.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78781 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:24 pm to
data caps are far more damaging than this made up NN boogeyman.

guess what? i'm already getting frickED by data caps right now and the obama NN has nothing whatsoever to do with that.

how about we spend our energy on ACTUAL problems..not some hypothetical.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83159 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:24 pm to
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they're going to do it...Im super serial! I know, because reddit told me they will, even though it would be a bad business model and hurt them financially, and theyve never done it.


So what's the upside of this decision then?
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:24 pm to
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This is actually the best argument I've heard. Wow. That changes my mind, honestly. Makes sense.
Dude, this point has been made numerous times
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125547 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:24 pm to
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I do this now. My friends bring a hard drive over to my house and I copy my plex content to it so they can watch it when they get home and they bring me stuff I copy to my plex box.
and others upload and download content from others

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comcast is already data capping everyone UNDER OBAMA'S NN so the hell if i'm sharing plex with anyone. i can barely stay under the cap as it is.


blaming data caps on NN

They are in place bc of people streaming their content and not buying cable tv
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83159 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:25 pm to
Haven't seen them - this issue bores the frick out of me but I made myself read this thread.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:25 pm to
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data caps are far more damaging than this made up NN boogeyman.

guess what? i'm already getting frickED by data caps right now and the obama NN has nothing whatsoever to do with that.


bingo.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11040 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:26 pm to
Don't worry we can trust monopolies to do the right thing, in an efficient and fair manner.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78781 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:26 pm to
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blaming data caps on NN

They are in place bc of people streaming their content and not buying cable tv


i'm not.

i'm saying NN has no impact on ISP's decision to cap us..which is far more of a problem than the NN boogeyman y'all are trying to scare people with.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125547 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

data caps are far more damaging than this made up NN boogeyman. guess what? i'm already getting frickED by data caps right now and the obama NN has nothing whatsoever to do with that. how about we spend our energy on ACTUAL problems..not some hypothetical.


Data caps do nothing to improve the network and would be done away with if we had actual IPS completion.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20979 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Remember in 2012 when websites were banned by your ISP


I remember in 2014 my netflix went to shite because it hurt comcast business model.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2029 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:27 pm to
in 2012 internet was classified as an information service, with rules that ISP's honor the principles of net neutrality. In 2014 Verizon sues the FCC (because Netflix) and the ruling holds that net neutrality principles are not enforceable by the FCC with out Title II common carrier public utility status. In 2015 FCC moves internet from an information service back to Title II common carrier public utility in an effort to maintain net neutrality. So in 2012 ISP's were not allowed to, but after today's vote, they will be allowed to discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, etc. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. Acting like we are returning to 2012 is extremely misleading. Yes we are returning from Title II to an information service, but for the first time we have a legal precedent that ISP's are not required to honor net neutrality.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22104 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:27 pm to
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REmember when OP was right about anything

Yeah, me either
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125547 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:28 pm to
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i'm not. i'm saying NN has no impact on ISP's decision to cap us..which is far more of a problem than the NN boogeyman y'all are trying to scare people with.


You would have a point except ISPs have already shown their hand with this. By not counting some content against your data cap. Example AT&T and DTV Now. Prioritizing traffic and data caps are now going hand in hand.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Data caps do nothing to improve the network and would be done away with if we had actual IPS completion.



and your plan is to limit the potential for competition even further?

your arguments are literally contradictory.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45963 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:30 pm to
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Running Plex outside of your house? lawd what a waste of bandwidth.
Which, BTW, is really limitless.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17169 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:32 pm to
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CptBengal


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Remember in 2012 when websites were banned by your ISP


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yeah, nobody else does either.


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more things that never happened! YAY!


So using this line of thinking we should give up our guns? The government in the US has never tried to take control therefore they never will.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:33 pm to
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The government in the US has never tried to control therefore they never will.


thats your argument.

Im curious why you want to give them more power via NN.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66563 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:35 pm to
Luckily 21 states have already filed lawsuits and they'll be a stay on the ruling. So as ignorant as you are, luckily you'll still be protected for the time being.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Luckily 21 states have already filed lawsuits and they'll be a stay on the ruling.


lawsuits for what?

regulation is executive purview.

quote:

So as ignorant as you are, luckily you'll still be protected for the time being.



protected from what. WTF are you talking about, soyboi?
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