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re: Is this Sexual Harassment? Give me the Board's opinion
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:20 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:20 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Wrong. I'd fire him for what he proposed to the woman. I don't GAF if he scored or not. That's immaterial to my decision.
We just had a conversation where you agreed that sexual harassment isn't actually an act.......at least not in this case.....but is rather 100% a function of whether it worked or not.
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
What did he do other than get laid?
Not only laid.........but laid DURING LUNCH HOUR and she was wearing her matching bra and panties.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:20 pm to ShortyRob
And her decision can change at any point, too. Let's don't forget that.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:21 pm to L.A.
quote:
Wrong. I'd fire him for what he proposed to the woman. I don't GAF if he scored or not. That's immaterial to my decision.
Um. But, you found out he did that at the wedding too.
The point is. You only find out if it DOESN'T work.
Which is a patently absurd construct.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:21 pm to L.A.
quote:Asking to make her feel better?
I'd fire him for what he proposed to the woman.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:21 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
And her decision can change at any point, too. Let's don't forget that.
Even AFTER the fact!!!!
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:22 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I already said thAt I wouldn't fire him if I found out about it at their wedding.
Um. But, you found out he did that at the wedding too.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:22 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
We just had a conversation where you agreed that sexual harassment isn't actually an act.......at least not in this case.....but is rather 100% a function of whether it worked or not.
That is always the case.
If you walk up and slap a woman...and, she just happens to be "into" that kinda thing....you will not get into trouble. You might get into her pants.
But, the act of slapping a woman at random is a crime IF she reports it as a battery.
It is always a matter of "consent" or, at minimum, "acceptance" when it comes to these things.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:24 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Let’s all be honest here. If a woman is telling you she doesn’t like having sex with her partner anymore she’s begging you to frick her. If anything she sexually harassed him in this instance.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:26 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
You offer to tell her how. She's now very embarrassed. So, you say, "hey, I'll just email it to ya".
And you do.
You put it in writing? Never put something you are unsure could get you in trouble in writing. A lot easier to deny words out of your mouth than words on paper.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:27 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
You're working with a woman. She's junior to you but not subordinate to you.
She's clearly down one day and let's it be known that it's because boyfriend and her are fighting.
She also let's it be known that she's just not interested in fooling around with him anymore because it's not enjoyable.
You subtly drop in that you can solve that enjoyment problem. She embarrasses easily so, turns a bit red.
You offer to tell her how. She's now very embarrassed. So, you say, "hey, I'll just email it to ya".
And you do.
At this point, depending on the e-mail, yes, this could absolutely be considered sexual harassment if she reported it
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:28 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Let’s all be honest here. If a woman is telling you she doesn’t like having sex with her partner anymore she’s begging you to frick her. If anything she sexually harassed him in this instance.
yeeeesh.
Perhaps. I don't care who is horny, etc.
Ask her out for coffee, dinner, etc.
IF you use company email to 'tell a fellow employee how you can make sex enjoyable again'
then, you ARE risking a rightful termination. That is all. It is a RISK. If she enjoys it and you two become a happy couple. Great. But, that does not mean the approach was correct from an EMPLOYER point of view.
PERSONALLY, I'd never get my meat and my bread from the same place. But, that's just me.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:28 pm to Salmon
quote:The email would be the tipping point for me.
At this point, depending on the e-mail, yes, this could absolutely be considered sexual harassment if she reported it
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:29 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
BlackHelicopterPilot
No offense man but that wasn't your best work. A physical act in a verbal act are different
The point I'm making in this thread is that the very concept of sexual harassment now that it has expanded Beyond quid pro quo is silly
We basically decided to criminalize failed dating activity
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:29 pm to tigersaint26
quote:
You put it in writing? Never put something you are unsure could get you in trouble in writing
Oh I was sure
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:30 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Let’s all be honest here. If a woman is telling you she doesn’t like having sex with her partner anymore she’s begging you to frick her
Thank you
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:31 pm to Seldom Seen
whoever did that sucks at appropriating memes bigtime
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:31 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:I'm not retarded. I didn't use company e-mail
IF you use company email to 'tell a fellow employee how you can make sex enjoyable again'
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:31 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
A physical act in a verbal act are different
NO. The point of view of the "recipient" is what matters.
You can call me "neeger" and the worst that will happen is I'll not like you and I'll ignore you.
I know some people who would react differently. Same word. Same context. Different outcomes based upon the "recipient's" point of view and reaction.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:32 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Again, wrong. Whether or not you scored is immaterial. Propositioning her at work, AND PUTTING IT IN WRITING, no less, would be the determining factors for me IF she filed a complaint against you. And it's not because I don't want you to get laid. I just don't need those kind of problems in the office and among my employees. Chase tail on your own dime, not on mine.
We basically decided to criminalize failed dating activity
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