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re: Duck population IF a full season was cancelled

Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Dale Doubak
Somewhere
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:50 am to
I would be all for it since I hunt deer and can go to duck camp to catch crabs and bass. You could also do some good scouting for next year. Move blinds. Shot where do I sign
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25175 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:10 am to
Look at the number of duck hunters from 1979 and their limits vs now.

Canceling a season would do nothing to help.

As chopique said, migration patterns have changed in the last 10yrs.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:13 am to
Original poster where do you hunt and for how long?
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5156 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:40 am to
I think another reason for lack of success for the younger duck hunters is leaving too early. At 9 am there are motors running everywhere looking for ducks or heading back yo the ramp. If they will stay longer, their kill ratio will go up. I never understood why people leave at 9 am just to go back and sit at the camp or sit at the house. That's the time to be out there. Ducks after 9 am usually come to die and usually big ducks.

Same with deer hunters. People complain saying the deer aren't moving. They sit on a stand from 6 til 830 then from 4 til dark. You missed some prime mid to late morning window right there while you were sitting at the camp doing nothing
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22001 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:50 am to
I've been on a couple hunts in PAC where we didn't get in the teuck to leave till after 8 and got our limit.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:37 pm to
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The third is climate change. Although some meteorologists disagree, it doesn't seem like the weather gets cold enough to drive birds down here, particularly when they have good food stocks to the north. Just my opinion.



I have a lease I hunt in Mexico.....trust me in this, it's not cold there and we can easily kill 60-100 per day.

I was born and raised in SW Louisiana and have hunted more than most can imagine. I didn't put all kinds of info in my OP, because many on here like to turn threads into an 'I know more than you" dick measuring contest. That being said, my dick is as big as anyone's here in terms of waterfowl (duck and goose) hunting.

We need more sucks and we need to eradicate the goose over population to do so....because the simple consume too much of the breeding grounds.

But yes, the flyers change, and it's a # of reasons...pick any of all the you want, there is no wrong answer.

A major issue is how effective DU has been with setting reserve land all thru the Midwest. It's literally 10s of thousands of acres of uncut rice and habitat that gives the ducks no reason to come further south unless it would somehow hard freeze.

I think I've seen a correlation between DUs growth and southern duck declines. It's basically too successful. As stated in the thread, #s seem to be decent...there are just fewer moving south.
For sure, the season open a too early.

I know missing a year won't happen, but start it a month later or something that eases pressure to let them head deeper south
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5156 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:45 pm to
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We can easily kill 60-100 a day


How many of those ducks are comin from the United States? And how many of those are early migrators?
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12746 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 12:58 pm to
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We need more sucks and we need to eradicate the goose over population to do so....because the simple consume too much of the breeding grounds.


Snow geese breed in the Arctic Circle. Most of our ducks breed on the potholes and in western Canada.

Not seeing how the snow geese are the problem.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:35 pm to
Lsu saint you went transgender weigh your geese are eating the duck breeding grounds

And at the close of the first split we have probably had our best first split ever.



Close the season....
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

Original poster where do you hunt and for how long?


Grew up in SW Louisiana. Hunted every damn day possible for 35 years....rice, marsh, lease in Mexico, etc. Guided thru college.....last dew years pecan island and back in Jeff davis....
Any and everywhere, and a LOT
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12917 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:01 pm to
If we had half as many ducks as geese in SWLA it would be sick. Need to let the eskimos go ape shite on their egg harvesting.

Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:02 pm to
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Not seeing how the snow geese are the problem.

I think the issue is them eating out the duck breeding ground
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

quote: Not seeing how the snow geese are the problem. I think the issue is them eating out the duck breeding ground


Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:05 pm to
Heck the place I grew up hunting in Jeff Davis parish probably didn't have 50 ducks taken on it last year.....



It's no longer rice that's why
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:26 pm to
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Now getting rid of no till farming
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12746 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:48 pm to
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I think the issue is them eating out the duck breeding ground


They only overlap with a few species like widgeon and shovelers. The main problems are in the arctic and sub-arctic, which is mainly tundra. The majority of waterfowl are not using those habitats in abundance. Most research indicates the population of snow geese has grown since the 70s and 80s, just like duck numbers have.
Posted by DuckSausage
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
425 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:32 pm to
Just curious... what was/is the reason behind changing to no till farming?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12746 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 8:38 pm to
Soil health. Tilling breaks up the soil, allowing air to penetrate. Tillage also breaks up organic matter. All that together results in a breakdown in soil structure and soil microbes. This results in a less fertile and healthy soil.

The most productive soils are those that are not disturbed, because the soil community is intact.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:03 pm to
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choupiquesushi


Don't be that guy...exactly what is said earlier.....you say some genruc somment and some clown wants to have a knowledge dick measuring contest thinking he is Joe duck...calm down son

flyway.us article

Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15171 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 9:35 pm to
Baws. Flatbills won’t let me rest. Duck Dynasty started and too many swamp assassins hail calling teal.


That being said, i had a great first split
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 9:36 pm
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