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Posted by AUbused
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:10 pm to
Dale is a braindead hack who I generally ignore. However I see this argument too many times and so chose his post to respond to the argument in general .
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:12 pm to
Dale is legit dumb enough to be the greatest troll on the planet. Even that name is dumb. Dale.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:12 pm to
Hitler and all the real Nazis are about to fly out and wreck some shite.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18144 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:14 pm to
Scientists have already admitted the estimated warming ability of CO2 was grossly over estimated. Let it go. We need higher levels to insure longevity of modern plant life.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:16 pm to
No. They haven’t. And you can’t find a credible source for that statement, because the vast majority understand this 101 shite
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18144 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:19 pm to
Lol.. The vast majority see the models have been completely inaccurate and they have now admitted why.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

The huddle and play has already been called. The ship has sailed,


You're projecting again, olddawg..
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Dale is a braindead hack who I generally ignore. However I see this argument too many times and so chose his post to respond to the argument in general .


Oh, yooou! self identify yourself any way you like.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:23 pm to
Show us a link. And also show why the temperature is continuing to rise every year. And why everything points to co2 levels helping contribute to that. And why the hockey stick hoax was debunked.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:24 pm to
Dale



“That only exists in your mind!!111”
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Dale is legit dumb enough to be the greatest troll on the planet. Even that name is dumb. Dale.


Quality melt daaaawg
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:25 pm to
Thank you.

I will read this and consider it when I have time.

I do appreciate the effort.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

Scientists have already admitted the estimated warming ability of CO2 was grossly over estimated. Let it go.

In another few years, after the hoax has been clearly exposed, these true believers will be little different than the "Screaming at The Sky" crowd.

Sad....but funny!
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:32 pm to
Well...I have to admit it...that is one of the most intellectual responses you've made! Pour yourself a toast!
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:35 pm to
The sky is fallin the sky is fallin. Woe is me, we're all doomed.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:36 pm to
You talking bout this board for 8 years?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124650 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Thats nice.
CO2 makes up what percentage of greenhouse gasses?
Interesting question.

There are two ways to answer: (1) Concentration, and (2) Contribution
Both depend on whether water vapor (far and away the most significant GreenHouse Agent) is even considered. The amount of water vapor in Earth's atmosphere varies substantially by region, season, and weather conditions. So it is often erroneously not included in "calculations" at all.

In terms of GHGs, typically our troposphere contains:
1 to 4% water vapor or 10,000-40,000ppm.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) 400ppm
Methane (CH4) 1.7ppm
Nitrous Oxide (N2O) 0.3ppm
CFC's (and other misc. gases) 0.028ppm

GHG Contribution - Adjusted for Heat Retention Characteristics:
Water vapor = 95.000%
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) = 3.618%
Nitrous oxide (N2O) = 0.950%
Methane (CH4) = 0.360%
CFC's (and other misc. gases) = 0.072%

Of the 3.618% CO2 contribution = 28% is deemed anthropogenic. IOW 28% of 3.618 or 1.01% of total "greenhouse effect" is thought d/t human activity)

However, even that number can be misleading d/t to failure in considering other buffering effects such as cloud formation.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:55 pm to
Good post.
Now the next question ( don't know if it's worth asking, as the "true believers" seem to have run away)...is "What percent of greenhouse gases make up the atmosphere?"

* for context, we're already at "man-made" CO2 being a small part of 3.6%*
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124650 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

* for context, we're already at "man-made" CO2 being a small part of 3.6%*
Actually "3.6%" is CO2 GH contribution, not CO2 concentration.
So the "man-made" portion in terms of concentration is 0.0112%, not 3.6%.

Nitrogen (N2) 78%
Oxygen (O2) 21%
Argon (Ar) almost 1%
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) 0.04%
Everything else combined (neon, helium, methane, krypton, hydrogen,...) > 0.0028%
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:14 pm to
Excellent!
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