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re: #Metoo-ism is going to get out of control and needs to be shut down
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:00 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:00 pm to CAD703X
quote:Well, a really solid time might have been when he was being impeached as a judge!
what if you feel like you were the only one and no one would believe you and you might ruin your reputation and ability to hold a job?
quote:Someone had to be first. That first person.........waited 40 years.
what if when a couple others came forward it gave you the courage to tell your story?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
No not really. Don't pass out on burbon st if you don't want balls on your face.
or fall asleep on a military transport if you don't want your tits groped
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
When you have to attach that many "what-ifs" to your argument then your argument is probably pretty weak.
i think this is a common use case
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:04 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
a really solid time might have been
to YOU... again, it's not up to YOU, the non-victim, to decide for the "victim" to decide their time to speak up, whenever that might be....
look, it sucks, having to rehash and basically relive the events, when you actually do come forward and tell your story.... and for a long time, i just repressed those thoughts as much as i could, so much so that i had basically pretended like it never happened.... but it did.... and when i had to get through that part of therapy, it was hard, bro...
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
In a timely manner, yes. I'll still be skeptical of childhood memories 40 years later
Not when it is about a family member.
My brother was molested by our uncle and he didn't say anything for about 10 years and then it was only the immediate family that knew about it. Until last year he wrote a book about life stories and addressed it in his book.
My brother and I are 18 months apart and were best friends growing up and he never once mentioned it to me. I didn't know about it until I walked into my grandmothers house and saw everyone crying and I asked what was going on. My brother decided he couldn't keep it a secret any longer.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:08 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
That first person.........waited 40 years.
i honestly think that the hollywood stuff played a much larger role in these women's ability to speak about what happened, and that it's either not at all or has very little to do with politics....
seeing others speak out would definitely have an impact on them getting the courage to actually talk about it, rather than them just having a chip on their shoulder and trying to sink Moore for political reasons.... is it possible? sure...
but as a person who has actually lived a similar scenario, that's the way i see it...
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:13 pm to MrLarson
quote:
Not when it is about a family member.
I'll always be skeptical of childhood memories decades after the fact because they've been proven to be unreliable.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
I'll always be skeptical of childhood memories decades after the fact because they've been proven to be unreliable.
I understand there is a chance for that.
My brother probably would have never said a word about it if my uncle hadn't gotten married and had a little boy. He was afraid he might do the same thing to his little boy that he did to him.
My uncle confessed to everything.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:21 pm to chRxis
Everyone should read up next the McMartin Preschool Trial which I vividly remember the hysteria.
It deals with false memory syndrome. Many of these kids are in adulthood still believing the stuff that was planted in their minds. The hysteria (what we're experiencing to too) was incredible
LINK
It deals with false memory syndrome. Many of these kids are in adulthood still believing the stuff that was planted in their minds. The hysteria (what we're experiencing to too) was incredible
LINK
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I mean who among us hasn't been a little handsy with broads in the past? I mean besides Toddy of course......
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:29 pm to MrLarson
Franken is such a weird looking guy
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:36 pm to chRxis
quote:
In a timely manner
how do YOU decide what is a timely manner for the victim?
and who are YOU to set the time line for when the victim should say something?
Say something whenever you like, but don't be shocked that every day that passed diminished your credibility.
And your bullshite story about stealing that confederate flag off some stranger's car shows you for an attention whore with some pathetic need to make every topic about you.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:41 pm to shinerfan
quote:
Say something whenever you like, but don't be shocked that every day that passed diminished your credibility.
Bingo.
Until proven guilty, all accusations should be viewed with some degree of skepticism.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:50 pm to IAmReality
Buddy, you nailed it right there. The “victimhood” of America. Looking for the pity party and the money that might come with it.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
If you didn't have the nads 30-40 years ago to say anything and the current person your blaming can't be convicted, you don't get any attention.
I don't know if any of these accusations are true or not, but your above statement is just retarded. How the frick would you know what it feels like to be "raped" or "assaulted" as a woman by a man in a power position? I'll answer for you - you don't.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:55 pm to chRxis
quote:
to YOU... again, it's not up to YOU, the non-victim, to decide for the "victim" to decide their time to speak up, whenever that might be....
Society should not find it acceptable to come forward with completely unsupportable allegations that are ruinous to a person 40 years after the fact.
That people can't see the OBVIOUS problem with having such a stupid construct is amazing to me.
quote:They need to grow the frick up or be treated like children.
look, it sucks, having to rehash and basically relive the events, when you actually do come forward and tell your story....
I'm tired of them wanting both.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:56 pm to Tiger n Austin
And I'm all for the Innocent until proven guilty. That is what our justice system is founded upon (among other things). I'm simply referring to if they assault truly happened it should not matter the time frame.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:57 pm to chRxis
quote:
i honestly think that the hollywood stuff played a much larger role in these women's ability to speak about what happened, and that it's either not at all or has very little to do with politics....
Can you at least acknowledge that the environment right now has almost certainly yielded a LOT of bull shite allegations in the piling on?
quote:
but as a person who has actually lived a similar scenario, that's the way i see it...
I know people who have been raped.
I also know people who have been falsely accused.
I sympathize with the fact that rape/assault/misconduct is damned hard to prove.
But we CANNOT let that sympathy create an environment where all standards are gone and you can just ruin a person at your convenience.
THAT is GUARANTEED to result in a LOT of bull shite.
Which. Paradoxically, damages those who REALLY were harmed.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:57 pm to Tiger n Austin
quote:
How the frick would you know what it feels like to be "raped" or "assaulted" as a woman by a man in a power position? I'll answer for you - you don't.
So you're telling me that solely based on #metoo-ism you'll consider that person guilty?
What a fricked up ideal
Every accusation deserves skepticism until it's confirmed
Posted on 11/16/17 at 1:01 pm to upgrayedd
quote:No. I think this was all planned to be a huge cultural revolution with Hillary in the White House. They lost, but they're running it anyway.
It's another byproduct of the social media-victimhood complex that has taken over modern society.
The ringleader of the initial scandal and wave of accusations was Ashley Judd, shrieking banshee of the "women's march." That alone should be a huge red flag.
A lot of leftists have long claimed that women should be in charge of everything (I know your views on this lol). Matriarchal socialism is what they want. This campaign was designed to put all men on eggshells, letting women do whatever they want in the workplace and elsewhere for fear of this kind of thing.
The Clintons are the ones who smeared the landscape with political correctness. This just seems like another Alinskyite social scam.
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