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re: I think the MLB went just a touch overboard on the new balls

Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:28 am to
Well Puig hadn't hit that one yet when I posted that so how the frick was I supposed to know
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6506 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:41 am to
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And not Puig's one handed back swing low and away HR?




I was looking at the box score and it has Puig's HR 20ft longer than Correa's. But they ended up almost in the exact same spot. Puig's was caught in the first row of the Crawford boxes, and Correa's was second or third row.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
86999 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:48 am to
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Balls have been juiced the last two years. It's not a secret.


The approach at the plate is a perfectly plausible reason. It's not like HRs are up but everything else is flat. The strikeout record was broken again this year too.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
27088 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:02 am to
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It's like college baseball in the 90s


It wasn’t the balls. It was the bats and juice.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
2965 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:40 am to
LINK

Players and coaches from both teams commenting that there is definitely a difference.

McCullers saying he took the "blindfold" test and was able to easily discern which ball was which between regular seaon and world series balls. This is just odd.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3929 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:45 am to
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I was looking at the box score and it has Puig's HR 20ft longer than Correa's. But they ended up almost in the exact same spot. Puig's was caught in the first row of the Crawford boxes, and Correa's was second or third row.

Correa's was coming straight down. The distance is an estimate of where it would have landed at ground level.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:54 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
44058 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:28 am to
Don't forget the one-armed HR by Piug (?) = never seen a HR without both hands on the bat at impact.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13102 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:31 am to
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Correa's was coming straight down. The distance is an estimate of where it would have landed at ground level.


correct
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3929 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:46 am to
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Don't forget the one-armed HR by Piug (?) = never seen a HR without both hands on the bat at impact.


I guess you didn't watch the ALCS.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
69883 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:56 am to
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The approach at the plate is a perfectly plausible reason. It's not like HRs are up but everything else is flat. The strikeout record was broken again this year too.


I thought the cybermetric thinking swung in favor of more home runs at the cost of more strike out.
Posted by MrSavage
Member since Jan 2008
789 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:16 pm to
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I thought the cybermetric thinking swung in favor of more home runs at the cost of more strike out.


This is true. Part of the point of this post however is that many of the HRs hit did not incorporate that swing. Like Puig's HR was reaching with 1 hand.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
86999 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:17 pm to
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I thought the cybermetric thinking swung in favor of more home runs at the cost of more strike out.


It does, which was my point. Players are making a conscious decision to swing for HRs at the expense of Ks, and the numbers bear that out. Suggesting it's a new ball ignores the trend in at the plate.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
69883 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:17 pm to
You are hearing a ton of stuff about the Ball

It’s too slick apparently and your hearing this from pitchers from both sides. Trouble gripping in on sliders.

Guys who run the balls down are saying this. Allegedly they won’t even hold ink for autographed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
86999 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Like Puig's HR was reaching with 1 hand.


Puig is also one of the strongest guys in the game, and he hit it out of the 2nd shortest LF porch in baseball.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:51 pm to
But it is a new ball. You are ignoring testimony from the guys who handle the baseballs every day
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8964 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Don't forget the one-armed HR by Piug (?) = never seen a HR without both hands on the bat at impact.


Kirk Gibson did it in '88.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22507 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:56 pm to
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he hit it out of the 2nd shortest LF porch in baseball.
he still hit it 350
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13640 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:39 pm to
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quote:That last Correa homer left the bat as a routine fly ball and just carried it's way out of there. He almost couldn't even believe it Of all the homers to use as an example, you pick this?

Yes. That was probably the worst one.
The exit velo was 106 and launch angle 48 degrees. In the stat cast era, no ball with that velocity and launch angle had ever been a HR. Or even a base hit. LINK
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13640 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 2:46 pm to
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There is nothing worse than listening to fellow baseball fans bitch about too much offense. Your casual fan doesnt want to watch a pitchers duel. It's boring as shite. Let's grow the sport. Everyone loves dingers.


Not complaining about too much offense. I just think it's ridiculous to change the balls for the world series. It has put some of these pitchers at a huge disadvantage. They cant do things like they have done them all year long.
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