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re: Ben Simmons with his first career triple double

Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:34 pm to
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Yea let’s blame an 18 year old kid for that and not the head coach


Or even Tim Quarterman who very obviously checked out for a month after the OU game.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:11 am to
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Yea let’s blame an 18 year old kid for that and not the head coach

Omg no one is saying Jones shouldn't take the vast majority of the blame.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23077 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 5:41 am to
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I just can't bring my self to actively root for the guy. He didn't give a shite about LSU and really didn't hide it. LSU was just a place for him to kill time til the draft. And I fully believe he divided the locker room of what should have been a much better team when he was here.
this is where i am - he's a great basketball player. good for him. don't really give a shite about him otherwise. All the triple doubles in the world won't make him a Tiger.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:43 am to
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Maybe it works the other way around.

He might have had full fan base support IF he acted like he wanted to be here.



This
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35487 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:04 am to
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And I fully believe he divided the locker room of what should have been a much better team when he was here.
Where do you get nonsense like this? Simmons was a huge talent with a pass first mentality who could get 10 rebounds a night. There isn't a team in college who wouldn't want to play with him.

Maybe, perhaps, you should look at the coach who played another freshman over established players even though he was shooting bricks for the first two months of the season? You don't think that nonsense would divide a locker room?

Nevermind that the coach was a clueless fraud.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
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Member since Jan 2016
4051 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:18 am to
Ehh. I think it was more on the coach than anything. It’s not like he came here and stuck it up.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30407 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 7:35 am to
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Wish he would've gotten one for us. He is definitely RoTY though



He was passing to guys missing wide open layups, so it was a little tougher.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43242 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:18 am to
Simmons game was always going to translate better to the NBA where he can go one on one and showcase his skills.

When the NBA actually starts to play defense around Christmas, Simmons will have to get way more physical or he's going to get pushed around a lot.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85192 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:20 am to
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this is where i am - he's a great basketball player. good for him. don't really give a shite about him otherwise. All the triple doubles in the world won't make him a Tiger.


, when he's dominating the NBA for the next 15 years, he'll be used in recruiting material all the time.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15920 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:22 am to
His time at LSU was a let down for everyone involved.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5497 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:31 am to
Honestly it feels like Ben Simmons was never at LSU.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17219 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:36 am to
Simmons was made for the NBA, sometimes that does not translate into college ball.

And honestly, he was LSU's whole team while he was here. Our coaching caused him to check out and he still put up excellent numbers.
Posted by Ragin' Tiger
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2012
972 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:36 am to
frick the Lakers.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70948 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:39 am to
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He is definitely RoTY though



pump the brakes

he's my pick, but it's October
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23077 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:41 am to
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he'll be used in recruiting material all the time.
tha frick do i care? They can hang his jersey from the rafters of the PMAC and it won't change the fact that i look back upon his time here with a collective shrug. He had a cup of coffee in Baton Rouge then moved on to the NBA. He is also good at basketball - BFD.

I didn't like his attitude when he was here and the fact that he was here for a VERY forgettable season makes me really not give a shite what he does in the NBA - a sport i don't even watch.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10151 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:43 am to
Fans started to turn on Simmons when they realized he wasn't going to be like Kevin Durant. Fans were expecting/hoping for a polished scorer that would give them 25+ every game.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23077 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:46 am to
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Honestly it feels like Ben Simmons was never at LSU.
Exactly. Him having a good or even great year in the NBA doesn't change that. Were some people saying he was overrated and are now wrong? I'm sure there are but as far as Ben Simmons connection to LSU it is tenuous at best.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155987 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:53 am to
Yea. Quarterman trying to engage God Mode every night and Johnny's lack of structure didn't help. He probably lost some fans when he passed on the game winner against NC State but it was a good basketball play. If people want to be critical, his energy and effort defensively (see Houston) was lacking at times. All that said, it was still fun to watch him play here. Too bad it had to be for Johnny on a team with no spine outside of Hornsby.


He's still very close w Hornsby and Malone, and Drake Davis said he helped recruit him to LSU. It's a bit harsh to say he's not a Tiger, though i do see where those idiots come from. They expected him to be nailing shots from all over the court but thats on them for not doing their homework.

And to everyone saying "I told you so!" Wow. Simmons is going to be a star in the pros? Now THAT is a Hot Take.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6466 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:54 am to
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The fault lies with the ridiculous system devised by the blood-sucking NCAA and the NBA...the kid was forced into the situation and further forced by family connections to attend a school with a terrible coach with little to no talent around him.



All of this. The LSU AD made millions marketing him as the product, while he lost tens of millions having to waste time in college. He played for a terrible coach who could not get the team to perform which made the exploitation of Simmons even more unbearable to him. Fans also treated him like crap hounding him for autographs which were then flipped on ebay.

I enjoyed watching him for a year. And his talent was evident. He carried that team. There wasn't a lot of difference between the team he was on that was competitive and almost knocked off #1 Oklahoma and the team that went 2-16 in the SEC the year after he left.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34430 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:06 am to
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And I fully believe he divided the locker room of what should have been a much better team when he was here.


I do agree with this, but I think Johnny Jones gets the blame on that one. He had a senior leader on the team with a history of triple doubles and basically just gave his role away to a freshmen who hadn't earned it. TQ could have responded better, but Jones sold him down the river.
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