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Will Colbert and Kimmel both survive moving further left
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:15 pm
It seems insane that they're both fighting for the same 15% super liberal share of the audience.
I'm ignorant about new media - can they both survive (regardless of their TV ratings) so long as they keep getting tons of YouTube and Facebook views in the days after their far left screeds?
It's just an interesting strategy to me because both Carson and Leno stayed as moderate and centrist as humanly possible in a bid to retain the maximum audience, win the ratings battles and be considered "King of late night", and then you have both of these guys (along with Trever Noah) fighting each other to appeal to the same "folk" (as Shaun King would say).
I'm ignorant about new media - can they both survive (regardless of their TV ratings) so long as they keep getting tons of YouTube and Facebook views in the days after their far left screeds?
It's just an interesting strategy to me because both Carson and Leno stayed as moderate and centrist as humanly possible in a bid to retain the maximum audience, win the ratings battles and be considered "King of late night", and then you have both of these guys (along with Trever Noah) fighting each other to appeal to the same "folk" (as Shaun King would say).
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:18 pm to SirWinston
Kimmel tries to make news with tears to try and steal Colbert's audience and it doesn't work
His ratings have been whatever for years including a permanent spot at #3 save for when Colbert was tanking
Colbert gives them the anger they want and he owns that audience because he has more lib cred. Now if trump derangement syndrome ever gets old and boring with the prog audience then Colbert is in deep shite.
His ratings have been whatever for years including a permanent spot at #3 save for when Colbert was tanking
Colbert gives them the anger they want and he owns that audience because he has more lib cred. Now if trump derangement syndrome ever gets old and boring with the prog audience then Colbert is in deep shite.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:20 pm to SirWinston
Colbert is doing great in the ratings sadly.
Kimmel is too much of a figure to be taken down at this point, but he is the lowest rated.
Kimmel is too much of a figure to be taken down at this point, but he is the lowest rated.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:21 pm to SirWinston
I don't understand how even the most hardcore anti-Trump person can find these shows amusing night after night.
I mean, eventually doesn't it get old? It sort of ruins the comedy if you know before the show starts it's just going to be an hour long of Trump sucks for the 100th night in a row.
I mean, eventually doesn't it get old? It sort of ruins the comedy if you know before the show starts it's just going to be an hour long of Trump sucks for the 100th night in a row.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:21 pm to SirWinston
The terrible late night shows can’t be getting good ratings. Who watches that shite
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:22 pm to SirWinston
They're not going anywhere.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:25 pm to SirWinston
Sure . Progs think everything is political . They don't even want comedy anymore they want a moral nanny and they get the kind of shrillness they need. Both will thrive because its destination viewing for Progs. It's a cultural statement --" I emote , therefore I am ". It's part of the orthodoxy now - like learning bible passages .
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:25 pm to SirWinston
Colbert is one of the worst interviewers I've ever seen. Really is wild that he has rebounded as well as he has this past year. All those airports/hospitals/nursing homes really do love that dick head.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:28 pm to SirWinston
Does anybody really watch those shows anyway?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:29 pm to SirWinston
They'll both be on television as long as they want to be.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:32 pm to SirWinston
These late night shows are basically the left wing version of Hannity at this point.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:06 pm to SirWinston
I'd love to find old clips of The Man Show to play for Kimmel. He'd probably melt.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:36 am to SirWinston
kimmel's audience for the week ending 9/29 was 2.3 million the show airs 5 times a week on broadcast television available to 126 million households in the united states for free.
that 2.3 million is a weekly number divided by 5 that's 400k per episode.
there are 300 million people in the united states. 200 million adults 400k is .002, there are 10,000 neilsen boxes .002 times 10,000 is 20 that's the number of the neilsen sample that's likely tuned into the kimmel show.
in carson's hey day he had a nightly audience of 12 million. in saturday night live's hey day it had a single weekly audience of 30 million today it's 3 million and that's it's highest ratings in 5 years.
if these shows had to rely on just ad revenue they'd be off the air.
they don't they now get subscription fees from your local cable company. that's why every time they get into a peeing contest with the cable company's they take to local radio telling you to call your cable provider demanding that they carry local stations.
it's interesting their choice of local radio, i can show you a larger audience and better demographics on kplx fm, DFW's number 1 morning drive time radio station than i can on the kimmel show.
kplx is "today's country" the number two station is regional mexican.
the total audience for all three nightly chat shows is about 1.4 million per night.
that 2.3 million is a weekly number divided by 5 that's 400k per episode.
there are 300 million people in the united states. 200 million adults 400k is .002, there are 10,000 neilsen boxes .002 times 10,000 is 20 that's the number of the neilsen sample that's likely tuned into the kimmel show.
in carson's hey day he had a nightly audience of 12 million. in saturday night live's hey day it had a single weekly audience of 30 million today it's 3 million and that's it's highest ratings in 5 years.
if these shows had to rely on just ad revenue they'd be off the air.
they don't they now get subscription fees from your local cable company. that's why every time they get into a peeing contest with the cable company's they take to local radio telling you to call your cable provider demanding that they carry local stations.
it's interesting their choice of local radio, i can show you a larger audience and better demographics on kplx fm, DFW's number 1 morning drive time radio station than i can on the kimmel show.
kplx is "today's country" the number two station is regional mexican.
the total audience for all three nightly chat shows is about 1.4 million per night.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:38 am to SirWinston
The market is so fractionalized (made up word) that a couple million people (out of 330 million) is a huge success so they can fill a niche like shows I like like Forged in Fire and Counting Cars.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:02 am to SirWinston
Their shows will fail eventually for not other reason than the viewers will get sick of the politicizing of a late night show.
They'll both end up on CNN or MSNBC.
They'll both end up on CNN or MSNBC.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:06 am to SirWinston
The level of vile hatred for the president that they openly display on public television is shocking to me. I find their pandering and peddling of presidential venom a cop out for a lack of their own short comings as entertainers. They will last because the bashing of our country is enjoyed by many unfortunately.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:14 am to SirWinston
Obviously anecdotal, but I don't know one person in my life that watches late night TV talk shows like these anymore.
I'd imagine that all of their ratings are down and appealing to a niche is their way to stay relevant to a small, but super motivated segment of their audience.
The networks are also scared shitless by the bleeding victim, letter sending, twitter bashing, faux movement starting, fake boycotting mentality so airing a right leaning late night show to appeal to the other side of the "small, super motivated" segment would be advertiser suicide, thus not practical.
I'd imagine that all of their ratings are down and appealing to a niche is their way to stay relevant to a small, but super motivated segment of their audience.
The networks are also scared shitless by the bleeding victim, letter sending, twitter bashing, faux movement starting, fake boycotting mentality so airing a right leaning late night show to appeal to the other side of the "small, super motivated" segment would be advertiser suicide, thus not practical.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:16 am to SirWinston
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It seems insane that they're both fighting for the same 15% super liberal share of the audience.
But it's the same belief of close to 100% of the people that surround them, thus they believe it's the popular belief.
They get so ensconced into liberal bubbles it wouldn't shock me to find out they believe that the fly-over staters that get airtime on the news to mention support for the 2nd Amendment, Trump, climate warming through natural means, etc are the only ones that actually believe in those things and that the media has to search high and low to find them.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:43 am to SirWinston
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Will Colbert and Kimmel both survive moving further left
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