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Don’t blame the players

Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:46 pm
It might look like they’re not trying or not good, but this is mostly on the head coach.

I watched in person in college at Ole Miss how much Orgeron can make a good, hard working player appear lost and lazy.

He beat two teams with winning records in 3 years in Oxford (Memphis twice). His last year the team looked talentless and lazy. The next year, Nutt took that roster to a Cotton Bowl win including road wins over LSU and eventual national champion Florida.

Houston frickin Nutt got those same players that looked lazy, lost, and talentless under Orgeron, and made them look absolutely great.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:47 pm to
Wow yea let's not expect these guys to be self motivated even a little.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67963 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:48 pm to
It really is more on the coaches but its extremely alarming that only 3 or 4 players play like they want to win, everyone else doesn't even care it looks like

You can see in their body language
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:49 pm to
You, sir, are 100% correct!
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

It might look like they’re not trying or not good, but this is mostly on the head coach.


this
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:51 pm to
Frank Wilson was the only bright spot at OM.

Wilson was responsible for most of that talent.

I truly believe Frank help hold Miles' teams together.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4364 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:01 pm to
The players , Coach Ogerone didn't fire their successful head coach the AD and a bunch of idiots murdered the atmosphere here . Now we will be program rebuilding ,Coach O saved most of last years recruiting class ,last years jr class going bye bye is the biggest problem . NOw the rant is starting to see the cost of a new head coach !
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68429 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:08 pm to
At least half of this is on the players. Orgeron still needs to be fired though.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5541 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:08 pm to
It's 90% on the coaches. But effort has been lacking as well. That's on the players.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:20 pm to
I don't blame this on the freshmen. They are out there giving it their all and they WILL be good very soon no matter who the coach is. They are just going through learning pains and need time to get stronger.

However there are a number of juniors and seniors on this team that are lazy and do not show the leadership needed. The number of suspensions this team has had is reflective of a team that is lazy and undisciplined.

While some of the on-field issues I will blame on the coach... I don't blame the coach for the players not being able to stop smoking weed, or the disaster that is Arden Key.

People like Key and Herron are pissing away millions at this point. With all the resources available - academic and personal - at some point the upperclassmen need to grow up.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43895 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:35 pm to
I will never call out players bc it’s
Against Chicken’s rules but these guys quit .. product of the coach or just bad judgement of character. You decide
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:54 pm to
STFU. Good or bad coach, there is a guy lined up against you each play. You either win or lose that battle.

Our linemen lose more than they win, and so goes the game
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