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re: New study shows that Fox News has greatly influenced the outcome of presidential elections
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:58 am to Jyrdis
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:58 am to Jyrdis
Skimmed through most of it, but stopped at the relevant parts. I don't think their istrument is valid based on their explanation and results. I would like to see the referees' reports on this paper, as I'm sure the same questions were raised.
From the conclusion:
There was a significant jump in votes from 2000 to 2004, but that occurred for both parties. There was a significant jump in 2008 for democrats, but a decline in 2008 for republicans. This is one of those types of papers that the profession has been pushing and I think the editors of these journals are doing it for ulterior reasons.
From the conclusion:
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Our estimates imply increasing effects of FNC on the Republican vote share in presidential elections over time, from 0.46 points in 2000 to 6.34 points in 2008.
There was a significant jump in votes from 2000 to 2004, but that occurred for both parties. There was a significant jump in 2008 for democrats, but a decline in 2008 for republicans. This is one of those types of papers that the profession has been pushing and I think the editors of these journals are doing it for ulterior reasons.
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:05 am to Bench McElroy
Well of course out influences elections. Prior to FOX, liberals were in 100% control of television news
The only people pissed about that change are liberals
The only people pissed about that change are liberals
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:05 am to Bench McElroy
So, this 'study' finds that telling people the whole truth, will influence their decisions. 
Of course - per the MSNBC scenario - truth is only visible to them that "have eyes that see and ears that hear"; which obviously leaves out the MSNBC audience of dupes and useful idiots. The 'Joe and Mika/Rachael Maddow' crowd. 
Of course - per the MSNBC scenario - truth is only visible to them that "have eyes that see and ears that hear"; which obviously leaves out the MSNBC audience of dupes and useful idiots. The 'Joe and Mika/Rachael Maddow' crowd. Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:22 pm to Bench McElroy
I don't ever watch Fox News and I know your ilk are lying thieves.
No wonder why you want to squash free speech.
No wonder why you want to squash free speech.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:48 pm to Bench McElroy
So one station, Fox exerts a few points if influence. I wonder what the six leftist news stations, AP, Reuters, the hundreds of left leaning newspapers and leftist drivel that filters into Hollywood would exert. By my count without those, republicans would have won 70% of the vote in 2000 and 2004 and 80% in 2008.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:49 pm to Bench McElroy
so you're telling me that what people choose to watch, listen to and read has an affect?
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:55 pm to Bench McElroy
I love how the left gives magical powers to THE ONLY right leaning cable news org. They have every other news outlet.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:01 pm to Bench McElroy
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Fox is substantially better at influencing Democrats than MSNBC is at influencing Republicans,"
This really makes me think.
I think there's a bigger issue just below the surface.
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This effect alone is large enough, they argue, to explain all the polarization in the US public's political views from 2000 to 2008.
ok.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:18 pm to Bench McElroy
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“Fox is substantially better at influencing Democrats than MSNBC is at influencing Republicans,"
Well, there is a simple explanation for this. What Democrats see on Fox is totally new and causes them to think.
What Republicans see on MSNBC is what they've always seen on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, Wapo, USA Today and all of the home town newspapers run by Gannet. Why would it cause them to rethink?
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:51 pm to Bench McElroy
it does what wise manipulators have also done over time --- they play to the fears, conscious and subsconscious, that people have.
they know they can exaggerrate facts, make misleading statements, and tell half truths to get their point across
they know they can exaggerrate facts, make misleading statements, and tell half truths to get their point across
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:01 pm to StrongSafety
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they know they can exaggerrate facts, make misleading statements, and tell half truths to get their point across
Like CNN or MSNBC?
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:07 pm to StrongSafety
Dpyble
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:07 pm to StrongSafety
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t does what wise manipulators have also done over time --- they play to the fears, conscious and subsconscious, that people have
Get back on track, this thread isn't about the New York Times
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:34 pm to StrongSafety
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it does what wise manipulators have also done over time --- they play to the fears, conscious and subsconscious, that people have.
they know they can exaggerrate facts, make misleading statements, and tell half truths to get their point across
They gunna put y'all back in chains!
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:04 pm to Bench McElroy
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“Fox is substantially better at influencing Democrats than MSNBC is at influencing Republicans," the authors find. While most Fox viewers are Republican, a sizable minority aren't, and they're particularly suggestible to the channel's influence.
So is that going to be the reasoning the DNC pushes to explain this?
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Sifting through the wreckage of the 2016 election, Democratic pollsters, strategists and sympathetic academics have reached some unnerving conclusions.
What the autopsy reveals is that Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites; that crucial constituencies within the party see its leaders as alien; and that unity over economic populism may not be able to turn back the conservative tide.
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A consistent theme is that the focus on white defections from the Democratic Party masks an even more threatening trend: declining turnout among key elements of the so-called Rising American Electorate — minority, young and single voters. Turnout among African-Americans, for example, fell by 7 points, from 66.6 percent in 2012 to 59.6 percent in 2016.
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Priorities also studied Obama-to-Trump voters. Estimates of the number of such voters range from 6.7 to 9.2 million, far more than enough to provide Trump his Electoral College victory. The counties that switched from Obama to Trump were heavily concentrated in the Midwest and other Rust Belt states.
To say that this constituency does not look favorably on the Democratic Party fails to capture the scope of their disenchantment.
The accompanying chart illustrates this discontent. A solid majority, 77 percent, of Obama-to-Trump voters think Trump’s economic policies will either favor “all groups equally” (44) or the middle class (33). 21 percent said Trump would favor the wealthy.
In contrast, a plurality of these voters, 42 percent, said that Congressional Democrats would favor the wealthy, slightly ahead of Congressional Republicans at 40 percent.
It's all the fault of Fox News?
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:49 pm to Zach
A lot of liberals think that Fox news is equivalent to Infowars and Alex Jones. It's the devil to a bunch of young folks lately thanks to academia influence.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:56 pm to StrongSafety
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it does what wise manipulators have also done over time --- they play to the fears, conscious and subsconscious, that people have.
they know they can exaggerrate facts, make misleading statements, and tell half truths to get their point across
looks like you triggered all the Fox News defenders.
Its almost like this didn't just happen a month ago.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 10:19 am to Bench McElroy
Maybe the will of the masses have influenced greatly what Fox reports.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 11:16 am to Bench McElroy
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Common sense tells any objective observer that the MSM is dominated by liberal progressives who greatly influence the outcome of every election
FIFY
Posted on 9/10/17 at 8:11 pm to Bench McElroy
Is this the thread where the left complains about pro right media coverage? Imagining what it would be like if it didn't exist lol?
This is hilarious
I think we should imagine if journalists political leanings mirrored that of Americans. The left would really lose their shite then
The Liberal Media: Every Poll Shows Journalists Are More Liberal than the American Public
This is hilarious
I think we should imagine if journalists political leanings mirrored that of Americans. The left would really lose their shite then
The Liberal Media: Every Poll Shows Journalists Are More Liberal than the American Public
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 8:24 pm
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