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re: If your business is open to the public, you have to serve everyone!
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:14 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:14 pm to Taxing Authority
Super liberal Twitter account - check out this hypocrisy…
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:19 pm to SLafourche07
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So it should be okay to refuse service for the reasons you think, but not necessarily for reasons other people may have?
In a perfect world we could serve everyone and go about our business. The point of the thread was to point out hypocrisy amounts to those telling someone else to serve cake when in fact Facebook and other companies deny services all the time.
To answer your question it's a complex issue with no real solution because prejudice exists. I would theoretically support everyone serving who they want to but practically that's how the south disenfranchised an entire race.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:24 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Assuming they play it as they claim, the application is only in the realm of marketing assistance.
Not a peep has been heard from them about businesses like google, paypal, facebook, and others... refusing to do business with people they have moral objections with...
Assuming they play it as they claim, the application is to any hate group product or subscription.
Assuming they play it as they claim, drawing equivalency between gays and hate groups is a non sequitur.
However, leftists' refusal to serve cops, or Christians, or celeb conservatives is where the observation does have wings.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:29 pm to Rakim
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The point of the thread was to point out hypocrisy amounts to those telling someone else to serve cake when in fact Facebook and other companies deny services all the time.
Yeah I know what the thread is about. You're spouting the same hypocrisy in your posts.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:42 pm to Rakim
quote:So...like... a baker putting up a sign saying: "we don't serve ghey people"? I'm sure that would be fine.
But don't those tech companies have conduct policies before people sign on to use product?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:44 pm to Rakim
quote:Great, so I guess the media and courts will be campaigning for these companies to serve the people in question. I'll go ahead and hold my breath for that.
The point of the thread was to point out hypocrisy amounts to those telling someone else to serve cake when in fact Facebook and other companies deny services all the time.
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Oops. Guess not.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:44 pm to Rakim
quote:There are no "protected" classes isn't the Constitution. The Constitution reflects equal protection.
I don't think gays are a protected class according to the Constitution?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:48 pm to JuiceTerry
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And when you refuse service on the basis of someone's sexuality, which the bakers stupidly admitted to,
They actually didn't admit to that.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:49 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Its really not a freedom of speech issue. We were told that private businesses could NOT descriminate based on their moral objection how their products and services were used by their customers.
I subscribe to absolute freedom of speech
As some said on here: "if you don't want to serve gheys, you shouldn't open your business to the public." Yet.... they aren't saying goDaddy and PayPal should close up shop?
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:56 pm to Rakim
quote:Apparently some moralities are more equal than others?
Not serving or baking for someone who that's gay is bigoted. Shutting down hateful points of view is a moral distinction
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:00 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:As am I. But, there was a LOUD group saying that private business have no such rights. Suddenly they are all gone.
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I'm all about private business having the right to refuse service to anyone.
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From my first post in the thread
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:01 pm to Taxing Authority
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Apparently some moralities are more equal than others?
I think it will be interesting to watch the shitlibs live up to their own rules.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:01 pm to SLafourche07
quote:Da fuq? Where is "hate" speech exempted in the first amendment?
One is protected under the constitution. The other isn't.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:05 pm to SLafourche07
quote:We were specificallly told that argument was insufficient when it came to wedding cakes. Guess what... there are far more bakers than there are alternates to Facebook.
Those people go somewhere else. And either that establishment flourishes or fails because of their decision.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:08 pm to Taxing Authority
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Da fuq? Where is "hate" speech exempted in the first amendment?
Article X, Section XXIII: The first amendment becomes null and void in the event it hurts someone's feelings.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:10 pm to Taxing Authority
It's not.
The hate speech is protected in the constitution but I haven't read the "force someone to bake for you" clause.
The hate speech is protected in the constitution but I haven't read the "force someone to bake for you" clause.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:12 pm to Taxing Authority
I understand you bought my cupcakes in the past. My religious beliefs don't allow cakes.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:14 pm to SLafourche07
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The hate speech is protected in the constitution[/quot
Terms of services was agreed to.
The hate speech is protected in the constitution[/quot
Terms of services was agreed to.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:14 pm to Taxing Authority
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Its really not a freedom of speech issue. We were told that private businesses could NOT descriminate based on their moral objection how their products and services were used by their customers
True.
I apply my view of speech to actions also.
Absolute. As long as a person is not directly harming another, they should be able to apply their efforts SOLELY on accordance with their own will.
I don't give a frick WHAT the reason is.
Three problem today is that our government is completely ok with i just said WITH EXCEPTIONS
By selecting out certain groups for defense, the government has defacto approved legalized discrimination.
If a black man can hire all black people with zero attention from the EEOC but a white man can't hire only whites, you have government sanctioned discrimination
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:16 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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I understand you bought my cupcakes in the past. My religious beliefs don't allow cakes.
This is a stupid, stupid argument man.
You're essentially saying "I provided service to you until I learned you were gay. Now I no longer provide service to you based on my beliefs."
Same shite with Google, Facebook, etc. "I provided service to you until I learned you were white supremacist. Now I no longer provide service to you based on my beliefs."
The difference is the gay baker has always held their beliefs...not just changed their beliefs in some virtue signaling circle jerk.
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