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re: If your business is open to the public, you have to serve everyone!
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so your argument is some discrimination is OK but other discrimination is n'OK?
Like clockwork the baker just showed up
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:11 pm to JuiceTerry
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t's not my argument, Slo. It's the state of Oregon's argument.
and are you supporting or criticizing that law?
i understand it's a law
Jim Crow was also law. i have no problems saying those laws were terrible, same as the law involved in the "bakery" cases
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:12 pm to Rakim
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the baker just showed up
my gf calls me her bear
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a fire breathing bear
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:14 pm to Rakim
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Rob, I know it was law but it was also unconstitutional
You missed the point. I do not support legally mandated discrimination
Jim Crow was that
I said there's no valid argument for legally preventing private discrimination
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:From my first post in the thread
I'm all about private business having the right to refuse service to anyone.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:20 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's not my argument, Slo. It's the state of Oregon's argument.
I realize this board hates inconvenient facts and their messengers, though.
I appreciate you Terry. I don't think you really care about who serves or doesn't serve someone? But there are some state laws that cover discriminating against/ not serving someone in restaurants over political, racial or sexual orientation.
I don't think you should have to serve anyone you don't want to serve. But I also believe the end of Jim Crow was a good thing. There are some today, even on this board that believe you shouldn't have to serve a black man if you don't want to. This is the problem a lot of us are running into, but now a days you can help tarnish a business with reviews and protest etc..
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your gf doesn't have any pubes, does she?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:31 pm to JuiceTerry
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From my first post in the thread
You are actually one of the few voices of reason on this board. You don't get enough credit for being a quality poster.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:39 pm to Rakim
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I don't think you should have to serve anyone you don't want to serve
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There are some today, even on this board that believe you shouldn't have to serve a black man if you don't want to.
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This is the problem a lot of us are running into
I think you're confused
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:49 pm to Taxing Authority
Baking a cake........white supremacy hate speech
Only on the Poli could you find such ignorance
Only on the Poli could you find such ignorance
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:51 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Baking a cake........white supremacy hate speech
Only on the Poli could you find such ignorance
Completely agree.
One is protected under the constitution. The other isn't. Pretty ridiculous to compare the two.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:58 pm to SLafourche07
The white supremacists should get a lawyer if they think they have legal justification. Have they?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:02 pm to SLafourche07
Btw, if the bakery had any nads they would post a sign in the window "We don't serve gays"
Care to guess why they don't?
Care to guess why they don't?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:05 pm to Rakim
quote:Or in adherence to someone's religious beliefs. I noticed that muslims have never been targeted by these obviously organized "civil rights crimes."
Not serving or baking for someone who that's gay is bigoted.
quote:"Hateful points of view" = anyone who disagrees with them.
Shutting down hateful points of view is a moral distinction.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:07 pm to SLafourche07
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I think you're confused
I'm not confused, I don't think you should have to serve everyone for strictly the fact that some folks are assholes etc.. Now, the problem with that is our past where race was used to segregate a population so it's not that simple.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:09 pm to Rakim
quote:Who decides what points of view are hateful?
Shutting down hateful points of view is a moral distinction.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:10 pm to blueboy
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Or in adherence to someone's religious beliefs. I noticed that muslims have never been targeted by these obviously organized "civil rights crimes."
What happens when this race won't serve another because of their race Muslims to Jews or Whites to black or serve to police officers?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:11 pm to Rakim
So it should be okay to refuse service for the reasons you think, but not necessarily for reasons other people may have?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:11 pm to Roaad
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Who decides what points of view are hateful?
The provider of the service and then courts?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:13 pm to Rakim
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What happens when this race won't serve another because of their race Muslims to Jews or Whites to black or serve to police officers?
Those people go somewhere else. And either that establishment flourishes or fails because of their decision.
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