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re: New Orleans Mayors race candidate Charbonnet aims to kill AirBnB and push affordable plans

Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15110 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:18 pm to
Can't you just get around this by putting the other priority in an LLC?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:20 pm to
Affordable housing is an issue - especially with our subpar transit system.

But the areas with a lot of VRBO/AirbNb... let's be honest... they are not areas that would ever be known as a neighborhood that would have a lot of affordable housing.

Even if those rentals weren't driving up the cost.

Also, people like to lump VRBO and AirbNb together, but they really are quite different things. For example, her homestead exemption idea actually makes a bit of sense in the AirbNb world. AirbNb was never supposed to be about a house having a non-stop series of short term rentals... it was always about the occasional short term rental while the owner was away.

However... VRBO IS about property that is rarely used by the owner - and thus is ineligible for the homestead exemption in the first place.

She's making a few unforced errors here. This isn't the first time she's said something and had to correct it later on - and I have a feeling that's the case here.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49620 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

i do think that the STRs could have been a catalyst to change the identity (ie remove the underclass) of the city but that ship has sailed.



This legit confuses the frick out of me. Hang with me for a minute:

1) Short term rentals drastically increase the demand for housing in NOLA.

2) A drastic increase in demand for housing increases the cost of living in the city.

3) The increase in cost of living in the city should absolutely lead to wealthier people living in the city.

So how the frick is crime getting worse? I understand the concerns with short term rentals hurting the traditional neighborhood in the area. But their increasing costs SHOULD lead to cutting down crime, yet they don't.

My best guess is that Section 8/projects remain unaffected by the increased costs of living in NOLA. The increased costs may actually be concentrating the criminals into certain areas.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30174 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:21 pm to
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GreatLakesTiger24


It's a little funny/true/sad/scary/ either way.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49620 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:23 pm to
Merton Hanks.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41830 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:27 pm to
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So how the frick is crime getting worse?


crime was lowering UNTIL this year, fwiw

and STRs have been heavily regulated in the city for 6ish months now i believe

i just dont think we let the "system" play out long enough

id choose tourists who spend the majority of their time in the FQ over the traditional culture we have every other block here BUT apparently im in the minority with that viewpoint.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30174 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:33 pm to
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My best guess is that Section 8/projects remain unaffected by the increased costs of living in NOLA. The increased costs may actually be concentrating the criminals into certain areas.

This...but only in the case of existing Sec 8. housing.

Charbonnet's plan is basically a way for city government to avoid building new Sec 8 neighborhoods/"projects" through the use of existing housing (which is currently being occupied by tourists vital to the city's economy).



ETA:

Pondering what factors may most greatly affect fluctuating property values re: "projects" made me a little.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
158271 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:35 pm to
Curtis DeLoatch
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41830 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Charbonnet's plan is basically a way for city government to avoid building new Sec 8 neighborhoods/"projects" through the use of existing housing (which is currently being occupied by tourists vital to the city's economy).



damn its depressing, why do people want this?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

The increased costs may actually be concentrating the criminals into certain areas.


I think it's the opposite, actually.

Crime has never been "low" but pre-Katrina it was pretty concentrated in the projects. With some projects being torn down and others having greatly reduced density, the number of section 8 housing has increased. And while not every area has section 8 housing... it's certainly more widespread than the projects.

I think that's why you are seeing more crime in more areas.

quote:


My best guess is that Section 8/projects remain unaffected by the increased costs of living in NOLA.


Of course. It's just like Obamacare subsidies. Prices may be skyrocketing... but all the increases are being borne by the government, not the individual.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30174 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:51 pm to
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damn its depressing, why do people want this?

Votes

A vote = A ticket in the Housing Upgrade Lotto


ETA:

FWIW - I do applaud her attention to bolstering the ranks of the NOPD.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4708 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:03 am to
A friend of mine lived in the Marquis condos on Poydras right after they opened and was paying $1500 a month. A month into his lease, the unit next to him was given to a section 8 family of four but they had 7-8 people living there. One night they had a party and a fight broke out and 2 guys crashed thru his condo wall.

He was able to get out of his lease shortly after that when 5 other units in his building went section 8. The condos were beautiful and now when I pass it going to Saints games it looks like the projects.
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:17 am to
Chad Cota
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12139 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:37 am to
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We don't need subsidized housing. How did people afford abodes in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries in america?
While I tend to agree, how many building codes did those homes have to comply with?

The exemption (not really a subsidy, but anyway) is just a relief from the government imposed increase in cost due to building codes and taxes on products/services used during construction.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77859 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 12:50 am to
"Affordable housing" is such a bullshite liberal euphemism. It's called projects, Section 8, or subsidized housing, and it utterly destroys every community it spreads into.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:07 am to
I've been telling y'all she is dangerous and sucks.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16615 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:24 am to
Sounds like Charbonnet wants a full blown ghetto city and wants to alienate the white voters. More Government housing will do wonders for the city.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16393 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 6:59 am to
Glad to see the NOLA politicians are tackling another important issue. Once they get these major issues out the way, addressing the crime and school system should be a walk in the park.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38495 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:05 am to
If her constituents would get jobs outside of being assholes to people at McDonalds, they could afford their own housing.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8636 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:08 am to
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with their own property.


This is the issue. They don't believe it's your property. They think the government has essentially granted you a long term lease.
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