re: Let's all remember what this protest began over

I think we need to remember that this is about local rule deciding for themselves what they want to memorialize on public property in their own community.

And that removing memorials is not erasing history.

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Let's all remember what this protest began over

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A piece of rock?

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With the Nazis adopting these statues as their own, it will be easier for politicians to remove them. Wait and see.

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Blind Squirrel Captures Nut!

Follow up question: Why does the left selectively punish the victims of cultural appropriation?

Musical accompaniment:

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When the Nazis find the whole place dark
They'll think God's left the museum for good

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Let's all remember what this protest began over

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A group's permitted legal right to peacefully assemble interrupted by people with no permit which turned into violence and then declared a crime by the permitted people by a politician and then 24 straight hours of new coverage slamming everyone from the president to the KKK sensationalizing and feeding a movement that should've just been declared stupid.

You know how you stop these people? You stop feeding them. They want attention and they want to feel persecuted.

Stop giving them names like white supremecist and progressive and BLM and KKK. Simple denounce all violence and support equality and unity for all without subgroups.

Continual news coverage and outrage over this small contained event and constant publicity for both ANTIFA and the white supremecist people in no way helps the situation. It only hurts it. It legitimizes and galvanizes both side while alienating everyone in the middle.

Our culture of entitled outrage fed by the 24 hour news cycle has reached a sickening point of critical mass.

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ve never seen a bunch of people more proud of a loser in all my life.

Robert E Lee committed treason and summarily got it handed to him by Grant and lost the war.

That's your hero??

Sad...very sad

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well if that list of people that admired Lee included Winston Churchill and Dwight D. Eisenhower i would feel pretty good about it.

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About time we corrected Lincoln's mistakes.

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With the Nazis adopting these statues as their own, it will be easier for politicians to remove them. Wait and see.

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It's almost as if it was planned that way.

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I've never seen a bunch of people more proud of a loser in all my life.

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So you would hold in contempt all who have lost on the battle field? Would you condemn Washington who lost way more battles than he won, and would have lost his whole command if not for a fortuitous fog! How about those who surrender and become POWs? Are they losers? Lee won more battles than he lost with armies smaller in numbers and bereft of arms, supplies, food, clothing, and ammunition!

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Robert E Lee ... summarily got it handed to him by Grant and lost the war.

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There was nothing summarily about it. Grant took over in May 64 and promptly lost 5 major maneuver battle and several more lesser ones to Lee. His command was twice the size of Lee's, it was infinitely better armed and supplied, and it continuously received fresh troops to replace the wounded and exhausted.

Despite all this, Lee's treasonous trash shot twice the numbers of victorious Yankees under Grant as Grant's invaders did to Lee's defenders! All this in only a couple of months convinced Grant that he couldn't beat Lee by maneuvering so he settled on besieging him around Richmond. This allowed Sherman to maneuver through the middle South, without fear of Lee coming down to hand him his arse, and eventually win the war. Sherman was the victorious general not Grant.

As an interesting what if, its very possible that Lee would have won the war if Sherman had not taken Atlanta! Northern civilians were tiered of Grant's butcher's bill that occurred while Grant bumbled around Virginia with Lee! But Sherman's Atlanta victory reinvigorated the North and allowed Lincoln's reelection and a continuation of the war in 65.

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That's your hero??

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Yes and he should be yours too! Many Southerners realized that they had lost the battlefield war and advocated dissolving the armies so as to start a guerrilla war. Sort of like Vietnam one hundred years earlier! Or maybe a centuries long resistance like Scotland and Braveheart. Lee would have none of that, he surrendered his army and told all Southerners to rejoin the Union.

This man's statues are now being taken down by the ignorant!

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It's horrible, but, ever since the KKK and their ilk adopted Confederate symbols as symbols of their movement, the irreversible trend is towards the outlawing of these symbols and statues. IMHO, Lee would consider the political usage of these symbols as complete violation of and disrespect for these symbols.

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Agree.

It should also be realized that the KKK initially was the indigenous response to military, economic, and political occupation of the South during Reconstruction. The original KKK started in the late 1860s and ended in the 1870s.

The modern KKK was started in the fricken MIDWEST in the early 1910s as an anti Catholic and Jewish organization. Marse Robert had been killing these arseholes ancestors 50 years before this! They sure don't deserve the honor of draping the Southern Battle flag around their sorry carcasses!

The modern KKK grew westward and eventually south. In the South there as a paucity of both Jews and Catholics, so the morons centered upon blacks for their idiocy. Bobby Lee would NOT have approved! Southern anti black KKK slowly dwindled into insignificance by the late 1980s. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

But taking down Confederate statues is ignorantly throwing the baby out with the bath water! It's promoting junk history! America is dumber because of it.

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The people who want these statues taken down need to get over it and go on with their lives. I don't care about the statues one way or the other but I think it's a waste of money to take them down.

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I don't care about them either.

Honestly, in an imaginary world where sensible people said "well, we don't want to destroy history but we don't want confederate heros as the centerpieces of our town squares, etc. anymore. Let's legitimately find a good place to put these items and continue to make them available for public visiting/viewing" - I'd be fine with that.

But I do care about the motivation behind moving them, which isn't what I just said, but is an agenda item on a long list of items the PC types want to see wiped away because they don't like the South, don't like Christianity, don't like the politics of the South, etc. It's just another deconstructionist goal.