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re: "The left continues to eat itself" - Sam Harris leaves Patreon

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Posted by REG861
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:49 am to
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This was right after his book, “The Selfish Gene,” was voted the most inspiring science book of all time in a public poll that was commissioned by the Royal Society, so the left continues to eat itself.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:49 am to
Fox has a really weird hatred for podcasts

Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:49 am to
"tv and radio is dying...but i'm desperate to get on tv and radio to sell my podcast that's replacing tv and radio...and my books"

that's absurd
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:51 am to
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"tv and radio is dying...but i'm desperate to get on tv and radio to sell my podcast that's replacing tv and radio...and my books"

that's absurd

yeah as if people on traditional media never go on podcasts to promote the stuff they're selling...
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:53 am to
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"tv and radio is dying...but i'm desperate to get on tv and radio to sell my podcast that's replacing tv and radio...and my books"

that's absurd

So now you're against people advertising their work? Do you have a bad case of blue balls or something today?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:54 am to

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yeah as if people on traditional media never go on podcasts to promote the stuff they're selling...


katy perry just canceled her appearance on network tv to do the joe rogan show...said no one ever.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:55 am to
no Fox just has this irrational conservatism when it comes to media for some reason

i have theories
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:56 am to
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katy perry just canceled her appearance on network tv to do the joe rogan show...said no one ever.

definition of a straw man

and your straw man is even projecting the wrong scale
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:56 am to
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"tv and radio is dying...but i'm desperate to get on tv and radio to sell my podcast that's replacing tv and radio...and my books"

that's absurd


what an absolutely retarded argument
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:59 am to
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i have theories

Maybe we should have him show us on the doll
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:02 am to
remember when Kaare Johnson got in hot water a few years ago? Fox was intimately involved

LINK

quote:

This video was featured yesterday on the kaare johnson program because it's footage of kaare in an unplanned crowd confrontation. The story of the protests has now been on drudge report, cnn and wwl, but it started on TIGERDROPPINGS

TD.com Political Talk


I shot the video, and yes, I become an arse kissing dweeb once i realize it's kaare (I've been trying to get a job at his station)


he either got that job and believes in his old media or just has that attachment to it. if he's really on the spectrum, that sort of association is common
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:05 am to
Yeah, I have to say Fox's disdain for podcasts and YouTube kind of bewilders me, since I tend to mostly agree with him.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:16 am to
actually the straw man (or rather false equivalence) is you pointing out tv personalities go on podcasts to sell their stuff as if that's the point. You have a book to sell, you go everywhere to sell it...same with movies, tv, anything...which platform is the most effective at doing it? TV. the difference is youtube/podcast/twitter personalities acting as if traditional media is dead or soon to be when it's the source of much of that content for a lot of people...AND...the best way to tell people about your podcast and get more listeners/subscribers

sam harris, what made his career? what took him from virtual unknown to quasi prominent intellectual celebrity? his appearance on bill maher when batman freaked out on him.

"tv is dying man, podcasts are the future. i'm also desperate to go on tv to promote my podcast and use both to sell my books"

disinterested celebrities go on podcasts (because it's useful in that the audience is usually quite specific) has nothing to do with what i'm saying.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:21 am to
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actually the straw man (or rather false equivalence) is you pointing out tv personalities go on podcasts to sell their stuff as if that's the point.

but they do

your straw man is acting like it's a zero-sum game and they'd have to forgo traditional media, which is not true

for just an easy example, look at Leah Remini when she was promoting her work on Scientology. she hit up tv, radio, and JRE

it's not exclusive

quote:

the difference is youtube/podcast/twitter personalities acting as if traditional media is dead or soon to be when it's the source of much of that content for a lot of people

traditional media can still be dying and the most popular form of media

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.AND...the best way to tell people about your podcast and get more listeners/subscribers


i don't know if this is true. i'll have to see some data
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:25 am to
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traditional media can still be dying and the most popular form of media



Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:38 am to
It's hard for me to grasp what it must be like to have such politically-driven tunnel vision. How do you even walk out of your house?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:17 pm to
I always assumed he works for traditional media.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:18 pm to
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I always assumed he works for traditional media.

i'd be willing to bet money on this
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 12:49 pm to
hulu, sling tv, netlix, for the purposes of that chart, are those considered "traditional tv viewing trends"?

because they're a distributor of the exact same content. so distribution methods have changed, cost for consumers, etc. but that's cosmetic. tv is bigger than ever, and it's the same 4 companies creating the most ravenously consumed content.

talk radio, different discussion.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 1:02 pm to
it's not disdain. i like them, i just think that people have a very naïve viewpoint when it comes to their place in the larger landscape.




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