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Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:38 pm to LNCHBOX
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So when that happens, you can pull the plug then.
That's what happened and that's what they did.
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That still doesn't answer my question on why these people should not be able to make the choice themselves.
Doctors advocating for the patient said it was in his best interest to cease treatment.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:38 pm to AUCE05
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These are Facebook Trump supporters. Care should be taken.
Still playing the stupid card.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:39 pm to Speedy G
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Doctors advocating for the patient said it was in his best interest to cease treatment.
do you believe that the doctor's should get final say in this or the family?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:39 pm to Speedy G
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That's what happened and that's what they did.
Because they had no other choice.
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Doctors advocating for the patient said it was in his best interest to cease treatment.
That's not an answer. That's an explanation of what happened.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:40 pm to AUCE05
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These are Facebook Trump supporters. Care should be taken.
lol. I voted for Gary Johnson
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:42 pm to AlbertMeansWell
This story pisses me off and a big reason why I stay firmly on the libertarian side of things 9/10 times.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:44 pm to Salmon
That is irrelevant to my original comment. I simply pointed out the other posters setup of the story was biased. The political and social aspects of this argument was introduced by that other emotional retard. Charlie wasn't some happy kid wasting away and held captive by the NHS. There is actually evidence they did everything possible to treat him. Once he was brain dead, the medical professionals opted to stop treatment.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:44 pm to AUCE05
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That is irrelevant to my original comment. I simply pointed out the other posters setup of the story was biased. The political and social aspects of this argument was introduced by that other emotional retard. Charlie wasn't some happy kid wasting away and held captive by the NHS. There is actually evidence they did everything possible to treat him. Once he was brain dead, the medical professionals opted to stop treatment.
You're a hack.Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:45 pm to AUCE05
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Once he was brain dead, the medical professionals opted to stop treatment.
which is fine
but the family should have every right to opt for other medical opinions and treatment
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:46 pm to Salmon
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do you believe that the doctor's should get final say in this or the family?
I believe they are the only ones capable of making an informed rational selfless decision. That child's situation sounds like a living hell.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:46 pm to Salmon
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but the family should have every right to opt for other medical opinions and treatment
Don't expect him to address that. he's too busy reaching for any personal insult to detract from the actual discussion.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:47 pm to Speedy G
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I believe they are the only ones capable of making an informed rational selfless decision.
that doesn't answer my question
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:47 pm to Salmon
Again. Go read what I originally posted. Facts should be posted before people start getting emotional.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:48 pm to AUCE05
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Facts should be posted before people start getting emotional.
No one in this thread is making an emotional argument. Stop deflecting.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:49 pm to AUCE05
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Go read what I originally posted. Facts should be posted before people start getting emotional.
My opinion isn't based off emotion.
And his chances of survival are absolutely irrelevant.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:49 pm to Salmon
His original post wasn't a fact regardless.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:53 pm to AUCE05
quote:The insurance company refuses it. If the patient has the financial ability and a doctor signed on the insurance company cannot say no, he must die.
Insurance companies refuse treatment in the US after a certain point.
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This isn't an uncommon practice here either.
Not apples to apples.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:55 pm to Salmon
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that doesn't answer my question
Well, I'd need to read all the trial testimony, do medical research, probably interview some doctors, perhaps even go to med school.
I don't believe the parents should be allowed to do whatever they want just by virtue of being parents. He was a person not a pet. I think the decision should be made in the patient's best interest. I don't think parents are necessarily able to do that b/c their own interests are intertwined.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:57 pm to Speedy G
quote:So you ignore the doctors that were willing to try to treat him and at least give him a chance?
Well, I'd need to read all the trial testimony, do medical research, probably interview some doctors, perhaps even go to med school.
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He was a person not a pet
This makes the whole thing even worse. You're basically saying you think it would be better to do anything possible for a pet but not your kid.
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