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re: Automation: What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
We could just Matrix them and use their bodies as an organ bank.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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First we have to restructure our entitlement program where having more children is not rewarded.
Real life decisions have to have consequences. We CANNOT have unskilled, unproductive people that are supported by the government giving birth to more unskilled people.
Not just entitlements but tax deductions also. I take mine every year but there is no reason for us to continue to encourage having kids through tax deductions.
We should be careful though lest we find ourselves in the same shoes as Europe. Their entire immigrant problem is due to low birth rates....there simply aren't enough workers to fill jobs.....
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:20 pm to Covingtontiger77
Did you not learn anything from Trump's deal with Carrier?
You get Mike Pence to give you 7 mil in tax breaks to help pay for the automation.
Here is the kicker. You get a group of people to believe you are "saving their jobs" during an election year. Next thing you know? An upside-down candy corn is President. The Pence is VP. The computer puts your sorry arse on the street and you made America great again!
Oh! And the parent company is still selling us shitty jet engines.
#MAGA
You get Mike Pence to give you 7 mil in tax breaks to help pay for the automation.
Here is the kicker. You get a group of people to believe you are "saving their jobs" during an election year. Next thing you know? An upside-down candy corn is President. The Pence is VP. The computer puts your sorry arse on the street and you made America great again!
Oh! And the parent company is still selling us shitty jet engines.
#MAGA
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:21 pm to crewdepoo
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Kill em
Yeah, kill all truck drivers! You know they often make 6 figures a year, pay taxes, and support their families, but as soon as their jobs are automated, straight to the gas chamber with them and their families. Great idea.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:21 pm to Covingtontiger77
Military. We will just conquer the world and these minions will be our Army. They can keep their conquered lands and stay there.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:21 pm to Covingtontiger77
Maybe they can be councilors at the camps.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Automation: What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
*Damnit should have figured on a two page thread that somebody would have beat me to it
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm to OMLandshark
I'm sure he was kidding, but automation isn't going to just impact low skill jobs. The field of medicine will be greatly impacted by automation (as it should be).
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, kill all truck drivers!
Be careful, this may get a lot of traction.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:22 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, kill all truck drivers! You know they often make 6 figures a year, pay taxes, and support their families, but as soon as their jobs are automated, straight to the gas chamber with them and their families. Great idea.
truck drivers will be automated within 15 years.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:23 pm to Brosef Stalin
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There's always landscaping and construction. Gonna be a while until we get robots that can build a house or pour concrete.
Well eventually thats going to come for them as wel, and landscaping/construction can't account for just drivers, nevertheless everyone else that will he laid off.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:26 pm to Hawkeye95
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truck drivers will be automated within 15 years.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:29 pm to funnystuff
While not a complete answer, the first step is reducing future generations of them.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:34 pm to Covingtontiger77
The problem will take care of itself just as it always has. In Ice Age Eurasia, only those capable of planning ahead for the winter survived -- this means the intelligence of the average person rose accordingly as the gene pool normalized itself. Along with intelligence, those that didn't develop certain genetic traits (fair skin for vitamin D absorption) were weeded out of the gene pool. In other words, those that were maladapted to the environment either died or didn't reproduce.
The same will happen in a future robotic world. It's just hard to tell exactly what our adaptation will be. I see one of two scenarios:
1) The human population takes a major nosedive because the vast majority of humans simply aren't needed anymore. Those that aren't able to engineer and/or upkeep artificial intelligence systems will be weeded out of the gene pool naturally.
2) The opposite happens and the human population continues to rise. It could be that the AI makes life so easy that even retards and imbeciles can live like kings without being a burden on anyone else. The robots will essentially be our sugar daddies.
Both scenarios have their problems. In the first scenario all but the most specialized humans are essentially replaced by robots. In the second, most humans end up living a worthless existence of luxury with no purpose.
The same will happen in a future robotic world. It's just hard to tell exactly what our adaptation will be. I see one of two scenarios:
1) The human population takes a major nosedive because the vast majority of humans simply aren't needed anymore. Those that aren't able to engineer and/or upkeep artificial intelligence systems will be weeded out of the gene pool naturally.
2) The opposite happens and the human population continues to rise. It could be that the AI makes life so easy that even retards and imbeciles can live like kings without being a burden on anyone else. The robots will essentially be our sugar daddies.
Both scenarios have their problems. In the first scenario all but the most specialized humans are essentially replaced by robots. In the second, most humans end up living a worthless existence of luxury with no purpose.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:37 pm to Hawkeye95
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truck drivers will be automated within 15 years
I might be more inclined to believe this,if I could find 1 company that can even keep the lights on their loading docks working. Or even load or unload the trucks on schedule.
You can automate the trucks all you want,but what will they do when there is no place to dock,and no place to park?
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:40 pm to Covingtontiger77
I believe eventually the answer will be Universal Basic Income.
That will come with its own set of problems, however.
That will come with its own set of problems, however.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:42 pm to auggie
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I might be more inclined to believe this,ifIcould find 1 company that can even keep the lights on their loading docks working
That's at best where the truck drivers will go. That or pumping gas into their former 18 wheelers when they stop off (I definitely see the gas pumper making a return with this automation).
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:42 pm to auggie
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I might be more inclined to believe this,ifIcould find 1 company that can even keep the lights on their loading docks working. Or even load or unload the trucks on schedule.
You can automate the trucks all you want,but what will they do when there is no place to dock,and no place to park?
It is only a CF b.c humans run the loading docks.
I have a friend that owns a shipping company. Most of the people that work for him are complete morons. It will be easy to automate their jobs.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:43 pm to rbWarEagle
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That's certainly a rosy perspective on free market-driven innovation. These new industries would likely be entertainment related, no?
No. We shouldn't focus on jobs for the unskilled. We should be focusing on why the unskilled are unskilled and how to get the unskilled the skills they need to meet the needs of the changing economy. Is it our schools not training them properly? Do they not desire skills due to cultural reasons? Is there an experience gap that's keeping them from getting the change to grow their skills
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:43 pm to TheFonz
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