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Sometimes the best hire is not picking the wrong guy
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am
Thankfully Bertman saw through Petrino and saved LSU a lot of embarrassment.
Florida probably feeling the same way right about now since Freeze was a finalist for the Fla job.
Florida probably feeling the same way right about now since Freeze was a finalist for the Fla job.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:21 am to nicholastiger
He was the right hire at the time. And yes, Bertman saw through that scum, Petrino. As a coach he certainly had an eye on winners. Les wasn't flashy but I think Bertman def saw that Les had what it took.
I just hope that Coach O is the right hire for LSU at this time.
I just hope that Coach O is the right hire for LSU at this time.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:28 am to dgnx6
Bertman knew how hard it would be on the next guy to replace Saban, he saw it firsthand with the Smoke hire.
Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.
Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:30 am to nicholastiger
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Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.
So true it hurts.....
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:35 am to ibleedprplngld
Wasn't smoke lavall hired by bertman? Oh I also think Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:37 am to Amish threesome
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Oh I also think Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!
Pokey was a very good coach and had a great history at LSU. No way you could have seen that coming.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:39 am to Amish threesome
Plenty of folks want to cannonize Skip for his time as AD. Skip has been going on the radio telling people that he was visionary during coaching searches, etc. The hard truth is Skip was brough on as AD to be the messenger for the imposition of tradition fees. He was a figurehead. LSU needed someone popular to tell its fans and donors that something enormously expensive and unpopular was needed to compete at the highest level. That guy was Skip Bertman.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:45 am to nicholastiger
Maybe none of this comes to light if Freeze is hired at UF in 2015.
The NCAA violations at Ole Miss would have occurred under Freeze, but with him being at UF, maybe the desire to pin everything on Houston Nutt isn't as great. If Nutt doesn't take legal action, then Freeze's phone records may not have come under scrutiny. If the phone records don't come under scrutiny, the fact that Freeze was calling "pros" may not have ever come out.
The line to replace Nutt at Ole Miss wasn't long. Freeze wanted the job and was clearly ok with the boosters' desire to "bend the rules" to field a winner. Freeze was the right man at the right time for what Ole Miss wanted to do. They sold their soul to the devil to get back to football glory and EVERYONE knew it. It was one of the least transparent instances of cheating in the last 20 years. Ole Miss mostly got what it wanted on the field. Now the bill is due, with interest
The NCAA violations at Ole Miss would have occurred under Freeze, but with him being at UF, maybe the desire to pin everything on Houston Nutt isn't as great. If Nutt doesn't take legal action, then Freeze's phone records may not have come under scrutiny. If the phone records don't come under scrutiny, the fact that Freeze was calling "pros" may not have ever come out.
The line to replace Nutt at Ole Miss wasn't long. Freeze wanted the job and was clearly ok with the boosters' desire to "bend the rules" to field a winner. Freeze was the right man at the right time for what Ole Miss wanted to do. They sold their soul to the devil to get back to football glory and EVERYONE knew it. It was one of the least transparent instances of cheating in the last 20 years. Ole Miss mostly got what it wanted on the field. Now the bill is due, with interest
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:52 am to Amish threesome
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Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!
You're a moron
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:53 am to Alt26
Freeze might not have needed to resort to cheating at UF.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:55 am to Alt26
Lots of truth by alt and therick in this thread.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:55 am to nicholastiger
Stevie Wonder could see Petrino is a scumbag.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:21 pm to nitwit
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Freeze might not have needed to resort to cheating at UF.
It would have been much worse. He would have been in fricking Florida.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:58 pm to nicholastiger
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Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.
Yep. Would've been national champs in 2011 and very likely repeated in 2012. Then who knows what happens after that without having all those years of recruiting against Saban.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
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Maybe none of this comes to light if Freeze is hired at UF in 2015. The NCAA violations at Ole Miss would have occurred under Freeze, but with him being at UF, maybe the desire to pin everything on Houston Nutt isn't as great. If Nutt doesn't take legal action, then Freeze's phone records may not have come under scrutiny. If the phone records don't come under scrutiny, the fact that Freeze was calling "pros" may not have ever come out. The line to replace Nutt at Ole Miss wasn't long. Freeze wanted the job and was clearly ok with the boosters' desire to "bend the rules" to field a winner. Freeze was the right man at the right time for what Ole Miss wanted to do. They sold their soul to the devil to get back to football glory and EVERYONE knew it. It was one of the least transparent instances of cheating in the last 20 years. Ole Miss mostly got what it wanted on the field. Now the bill is due, with interest
Alt26-
Thats as good a post as Ive seen in here in quite a while.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:07 pm to Tiger Prawn
If Les couldve convinced Landon Collins and Cam Rob to stay in state, he would still be at LSU and it may have been Nick on the move.
Those LSU/Bama games of 2011/2012 were unbelievable. Well in retrospect 2 of the 3 were.
Those LSU/Bama games of 2011/2012 were unbelievable. Well in retrospect 2 of the 3 were.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:33 pm to lsufan_26
It would have been much worse. He would have been in fricking Florida.
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--at least his phone calls to FL "escorts" wouldn't have been long-distance!
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--at least his phone calls to FL "escorts" wouldn't have been long-distance!
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:51 pm to therick711
quote:Hell of a lot better than the Joe before him and the Joe after him.
Plenty of folks want to cannonize Skip for his time as AD.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:19 pm to nicholastiger
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Florida probably feeling the same way right about now since Freeze was a finalist for the Fla job.
UM would probably hire Freeze again if they could have a do-over and I dont blame them. They werent anything before him. Now they are just back to square one.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:23 pm to nicholastiger
I knew one of the guys on the coaching search committee at that time, and Petrino didnt even make it past the committee to be able to talk to Bertman because his initial interview was so bad.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 3:05 pm
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