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re: Based on this boards response to Ed O hire and since

Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4942 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:18 pm to
I like the hire, has done a great job with the staff.
I plan on sitting back and enjoying an exciting Tiger season.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Exactly.

I guess it's also not on the head coach when bama holds us to 6 1st downs and 125 yards of offense.

Someone should let miles know that the 5 1st downs and 95 yards we put up on 1/9/12 is no longer the head coaches fault


Les Miles had years to find an OC that could do better. He either should have made a better hire or let them do their job.

Coach O had a TE's coach running the offense and he did better than Mile's OC years into his tenure. Who's fault is that?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:23 pm to
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propose you be consistent when assigning blame to head coaches. That's what unbiased people do. If you blame Miles for shite offenses then blame O for shite offenses.


There is a difference of what 12 years? If Canada sucks as bad as Cam Cameron, yeah then throw a tissy fit. If he doesn't, since you won't give credit, just be quiet.
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:24 pm to
You already said you would blame 4-5+ losses on something other than Orgeron.

That's enough to tell me not to listen to anything else you have to say.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:26 pm to
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People like this wanted O to be coach because he is a coon arse, one of us, from here. That is all well and good and I hope it works. But if it doesn't and he falls on his face you just look and see hard it will be to fire him.


Look at my post above and tell me what you think O has done since he has been the HC as LSU that you think is a bad move. Maybe you have insight that I totally missed on his fires, hires, extensions.

I'm not a coonass, have no accent and like the hire.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28505 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Ehhhhh let's not get ahead of ourselves here

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Led guy...but based on the last 10 years, it's a pretty safe assumption.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:31 pm to
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I would've thrown money at Herman


The guy who in only his second season as a HC went 3-4 down the stretch and would have been 4-4 if he hadn't bailed before the bowl game.

The same guy who is an offensive genius and gained 303 total yards in a loss to SMU? Yes, 23 point underdog SMU that Herman lost to by 38-16.

The same guy who is an offensive genius who gained 287 total yards against Tulane.

Both of those games, hell all of his games besides OU and maybe Louisville he had much more talent and still lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis.

You wanted to throw money at this guy? How much were you willing to contribute?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99694 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Who are these O supporters?


CheeriOs represent!


But seriously, I'm hoping he'll be our funny talking figurehead and let the coordinators do their thing without interference.

Yaw yaw football!!!
Posted by martiallaw
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
1458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:42 pm to
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I like the hire, has done a great job with the staff.


Curious, what has he done that was great?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:44 pm to
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More than half this board wanted CPM fired mid season. Sounds like the same "experts"?


There has been a few intelligent posts in this thread but this one is by far the best. Congratulations !!!

I am not being sarcastic. Great post !!!

LSU message board fans at work again.
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:46 pm to
Wanted Les gone.

Wanted Fisher in, even if it meant paying the $7m salary he wanted.

Alleva is the one who pulled a bait and switch from a top offensive-minded coach to Orgeron.

As stated earlier, 10+ wins this year quiets a lot of people. Anything less, though, and you don't get to make excuses for O.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Canada and Aranda aren't going to volunteer to make tough decisions for him in high-leverage moments because O's the one getting paid to take the heat.


Hmmm, I heard it was Aranda who recommended Canada. Coach O asked him who ran the offense he would not want to coach against and Aranda recommended Canada. It may be untrue but that is what I heard. Aranda VOLUNTEERED the info to Coach O.

Imagine that. An assistant head coach making a recommendation to the head coach. What the "F" is the world coming to.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37535 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Hmmm, I heard it was Aranda who recommended Canada. Coach O asked him who ran the offense he would not want to coach against and Aranda recommended Canada. It may be untrue but that is what I heard. Aranda VOLUNTEERED the info to Coach O.

Imagine that. An assistant head coach making a recommendation to the head coach. What the "F" is the world coming to.



Is this true?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14570 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:02 pm to
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I guaran-damn-tee you miles wouldve won 10 games this coming season. Anything less than that is an utter failure.

Really? Because his last full season included 3 straight blowouts to Bama, Arkansas and Ole Miss.

I think anything less than 9 wins (regular season) is a disappointment this year. It will depend on what Canada can do with the offense.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:05 pm to
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18) Lost to the only two teams with a decent run defense. YES


Did you miss the fact that he had a TE's coach who does not want to be the offensive coordinator running the offense?

Guess what, that has changed? Do you hate the hire of Matt Canada as the offensive coordinator? If so, why?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:08 pm to
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Holy shite, how much did Fat Goebbels pay you to compile that list?


I don't know what the hell a "Fat Goebbels" is, but it is just a copy and paste from history.

Do you disagree with anything?

If so, let me know and I will alter my copy and post for the next bullshite thread.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37535 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:12 pm to
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Do you disagree with anything?


Well to start....

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8) Hired Matt Canada OC - the only Broyles award candidate on the offensive side of the ball last season. - *YES


quote:

Hmmm, I heard it was Aranda who recommended Canada. Coach O asked him who ran the offense he would not want to coach against and Aranda recommended Canada. It may be untrue but that is what I heard. Aranda VOLUNTEERED the info to Coach O. Imagine that. An assistant head coach making a recommendation to the head coach. What the "F" is the world coming to.


Well if this is true, what this sounds like is O having no idea what kind of football game plan he wants to put together. No overall strategy, nothing to drive his decision making, nothing to say "I want *this* kind of offense to facilitate my game plan."

If this is true of course.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:17 pm to
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He's responsible for Thomas being here in the sense that he could have fired everyone involved with the program had he chosen to. But he wasn't responsible for Miles hiring Thomas in April 2013 no matter how much you try to spin it.


Glad you brought this up. The first time Austin Thomas ever had a job at the college level in football was in Coach O's first and only year at Tennessee. CEO left after that one year.

Guess where Austin Thomas wound up working? No idea? Well he went to USC. The same place as Coach O. Why? Because nobody knew who the "F" he was or what he did.

Now Austin Thomas, who no one knows who the hell he is or what he does - HE IS NOT A COACH - leaves USC after Lane Kiffen tanks BAD.

Where does he go??? I don't know. Want to guess?

Yeah, the guy who is not a coach who has been behind the scenes at Tennessee and USC gets hired by LSU.

Guess who showed up 2 years later?

Coach O was building his staff long before he got to LSU.

Explain your opinion on how the hell Austin Thomas would have wound up at LSU if not for Ed Orgeron. I patiently await you idea on how it went down. And really don't expect anything at all because you don't have a clue besides what I posted.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:19 pm to
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Canada could very easily be Gary growton 2.0


You are absolutely correct on this. I hope you are wrong but no one knows at this point. The WR's will be in good shape though.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Explain your opinion on how the hell Austin Thomas would have wound up at LSU if not for Ed Orgeron.

Whoever our coach was could have hired him? He was first hired here in 2013 before Orgeron was here.
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