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Its absolutely insane that Nola Ryan did not win a Cy Young Award
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:30 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:30 am
dude had 7 no hitters (all time leader), is the MLB all time strike out leader, 8 time all star, led the NL in ERA twice, 11 time season strike out leader...............and never won a Cy Young.
How is that possible?
How is that possible?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:33 am to CBandits82
He never won a lot of games probably.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:33 am to CBandits82
well the first thing you have to realize about nolan ryan is he pitched for a LONG time
he has one of the most impressive careers ever by volume
but that doesn't mean he was the "Best" in any given year
i'd be curious to see who beat him out these years. probably writers over-valuing wins
he has one of the most impressive careers ever by volume
but that doesn't mean he was the "Best" in any given year
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led the NL in ERA twice,
i'd be curious to see who beat him out these years. probably writers over-valuing wins
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:55 am to CBandits82
I'm a huge Ryan fan, but the reason he never got the Cy Young was that he played for crappy teams. Check his stats. Most years he had double digit losses.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:07 am to CBandits82
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dude had 7 no hitters (all time leader), is the MLB all time strike out leader, 8 time all star, led the NL in ERA twice, 11 time season strike out leader...............and never won a Cy Young.
How is that possible?
The reason is that Ryan was an extremely frustrating pitcher to watch. He's the greatest power pitcher of all-time yet he didn't have a season with a strikeout to walk ratio above 2.5:1 until his 17th season due to his mentality of always wanting to strike out hitters no matter the count or the situation. He threw 277 wild pitches which is the most since 1900, was terrible at holding baserunners leading the league in stolen bases allowed eight times, and was an atrocious fielder with a ghastly career fielding percentage of .895. He also gave up six or more runs in a game 99 times. That's a lot of games where Ryan gave his team virtually no chance of winning. Speaking of wins, Ryan also only had five seasons with a winning percentage above .600 and never led the league in wins. When you add all of those things up, it's pretty easy to see why the writers never voted for Ryan to win a Cy Young. They were in awe of his abilities but his flaws were so considerable that it prevented Ryan from being the best pitcher in his league for pretty much his entire career.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:11 am to CBandits82
Im old and I was a huge Nolan Ryan fan throughout his career but he always lost almost as much as he won.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:25 am to CBandits82
Nolan Ryan is overrated. He was good for a long time but never elite. Check his stats. He was great at strike outs when he was on but a lot of times he was very hittable.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:17 am to CBandits82
Nolan Ryan was great but he's also overrated
All time leader in walks, wild pitches, and and third in losses. He played 27 seasons and only had 324 wins. Sure that's a lot cumulatively speaking but it only averages to a little over 10 wins a season
Dude could ball - but he had his flaws
All time leader in walks, wild pitches, and and third in losses. He played 27 seasons and only had 324 wins. Sure that's a lot cumulatively speaking but it only averages to a little over 10 wins a season
Dude could ball - but he had his flaws
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:27 am to CBandits82
He should've won a cy young just for kicking Ventura's arse.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:56 pm to CBandits82
Well that's the knock against him.
We all love strikeouts and no-hitters and Paul Bunyon type things but Ryan played FOREVER!!!!!! to get all those strikeouts but was never good enough to win the Cy Young award.
People forget he was traded in the 70's because he was so wild.
Cy Young award winners hit the strike zone.
We all love strikeouts and no-hitters and Paul Bunyon type things but Ryan played FOREVER!!!!!! to get all those strikeouts but was never good enough to win the Cy Young award.
People forget he was traded in the 70's because he was so wild.
Cy Young award winners hit the strike zone.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:04 pm to CBandits82
Same reson Drew Brees will hold every passing record and zero mvp trophies. It's absurd
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:00 am to CBandits82
Each year someone had a little better year.
Cy young is not a career award.
Cy young is not a career award.
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