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Its absolutely insane that Nola Ryan did not win a Cy Young Award

Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:30 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:30 am
dude had 7 no hitters (all time leader), is the MLB all time strike out leader, 8 time all star, led the NL in ERA twice, 11 time season strike out leader...............and never won a Cy Young.

How is that possible?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
61516 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:33 am to
He never won a lot of games probably.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425882 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:33 am to
well the first thing you have to realize about nolan ryan is he pitched for a LONG time

he has one of the most impressive careers ever by volume

but that doesn't mean he was the "Best" in any given year

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led the NL in ERA twice,

i'd be curious to see who beat him out these years. probably writers over-valuing wins
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:55 am to
I'm a huge Ryan fan, but the reason he never got the Cy Young was that he played for crappy teams. Check his stats. Most years he had double digit losses.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33996 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

dude had 7 no hitters (all time leader), is the MLB all time strike out leader, 8 time all star, led the NL in ERA twice, 11 time season strike out leader...............and never won a Cy Young.

How is that possible?


The reason is that Ryan was an extremely frustrating pitcher to watch. He's the greatest power pitcher of all-time yet he didn't have a season with a strikeout to walk ratio above 2.5:1 until his 17th season due to his mentality of always wanting to strike out hitters no matter the count or the situation. He threw 277 wild pitches which is the most since 1900, was terrible at holding baserunners leading the league in stolen bases allowed eight times, and was an atrocious fielder with a ghastly career fielding percentage of .895. He also gave up six or more runs in a game 99 times. That's a lot of games where Ryan gave his team virtually no chance of winning. Speaking of wins, Ryan also only had five seasons with a winning percentage above .600 and never led the league in wins. When you add all of those things up, it's pretty easy to see why the writers never voted for Ryan to win a Cy Young. They were in awe of his abilities but his flaws were so considerable that it prevented Ryan from being the best pitcher in his league for pretty much his entire career.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8722 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:11 am to
Im old and I was a huge Nolan Ryan fan throughout his career but he always lost almost as much as he won.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9341 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:25 am to
Nolan Ryan is overrated. He was good for a long time but never elite. Check his stats. He was great at strike outs when he was on but a lot of times he was very hittable.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
57526 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:17 am to
Nolan Ryan was great but he's also overrated

All time leader in walks, wild pitches, and and third in losses. He played 27 seasons and only had 324 wins. Sure that's a lot cumulatively speaking but it only averages to a little over 10 wins a season

Dude could ball - but he had his flaws
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11288 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:27 am to
He should've won a cy young just for kicking Ventura's arse.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35836 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:56 pm to
Well that's the knock against him.

We all love strikeouts and no-hitters and Paul Bunyon type things but Ryan played FOREVER!!!!!! to get all those strikeouts but was never good enough to win the Cy Young award.

People forget he was traded in the 70's because he was so wild.

Cy Young award winners hit the strike zone.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
5222 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:04 pm to
Same reson Drew Brees will hold every passing record and zero mvp trophies. It's absurd
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12596 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:43 pm to
Is Nola, Nolan's sister?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 7:00 am to
Each year someone had a little better year.
Cy young is not a career award.

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